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1943 Florin PMD Or What?

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I don't think this is PMD. so weigh it first
you can see some brokerage on it I think
THE ONLY THINK THAT bothers me is the wear
it should of been pulled out of circulation early as this would of been noticed
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Don't think it's PMD, either. It looks like there is a "fingerprint" od some of the reverse devices on the obverse field, particully the roos head and the bottom part of the crown/top area of the shield. There is also a little ,something going on at the bottom rim area. Would be nice to get a metric weight of this one.
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 Posted 06/19/2014  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
10.9g

edit; my scale is running .1-.2 grams light (I weighed an uncirc coin and came up short). I'll install a new battery and measure again.
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You might need to calibrate your scales

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Thinking die adjustment strike here?
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I'm thinking PMD, for the reason shanew mentioned. This coin is heavily circulated; there's no way it lasted in circulation that long and nobody noticed the king was missing.

Given the date, I'd assume it was somebody's trench art / wartime love token project.
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Its a Greaser. IMO
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sap I would buy this as a error
still my only worry is the circulation but cool find
noD were did you get this
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Still very interesting at this stage. noD, can we please have a pic of the bottom half of the coin at a higher resolution?
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The obverse (smoothed) does not look like it is sterling silver, the coin's alloy. The reverse looks like silver but there seems a difference in metallic appearance. Maybe it is just the altered texture, or the photo.

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I need a new scale, though it is consistently light by .1 to .2g. I'll take to a nearby pawn shop today for an accurate measurement. I've ordered a new better scale.

My godfather gave it to me roughly 30 years ago. He fought in New Guinea in the early stages of WWII in the Pacific. I assume he got it there but who nows.

I'll post more pics later today.

Thanks for all the input.
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The weight is 10.9g. Should I give an acetone soak?



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I would give it a acetone bath cant hurt and will just be another step closer to working it out
I think you really need to see if there are any signs of sanding marks on the back its still just the wear on it that has me concerned STILL FEEL IT WILL BE OK
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Definitely PMD as it should weigh 11.31 grams,not a huge lose in weight but enough to call it PMD IMO.
The other reason I think PMD is have you ever seen a florin struck with just the denticles/beading around the inside of the rim,it would be impossible to strike just the denticles without the other parts of the design showing.
When a coin is struck the highest pressure is in the middle of the coin so it is very hard to believe that there are no design elements to be seen in the middle.

Here is one that has had the rim & all sanded off,it weighs 10.4 grams so less than 1 gram under weight.

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Yeah, after posting the weight, I agree, it's PMD.
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