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Speaking Of Tooling, 1826 Capped Bust Half

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 Posted 08/13/2007  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to concur. Probably was too hasty to jump on the "tooled" train, because the question would have to be why only tool the hair and not the other parts that really needed to be tooled. 1826s I've seen have been some of the best struck and most detailed of the series. It's why I only own one right now.
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Aww come on guys, (Susanlynn9 and halfabustisbetter) it's no big deal. I appreciate your honest opinions before I mentioned the guys from the BHNCs take. The only way to be sure would be to crack it out and weigh the coin which I'm sure is part of the TPG process (?) I'd venture to guess.

Thanks for looking
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 Posted 08/13/2007  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can weight give a definitive answer about tooling?
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Well, if they remove enough metal to give the coin sharp definition it sure can. Every little grain of silver dust which was filed off weighs something and it adds up...

The coin in MS condition should weigh 13.48 grams and that will naturally go down as the coin is circulated (or was circulated) and the metal wears away. Now, when I look at a coin which has great details, (actually too-good-to-be-true details) in some high areas that should be worn, anyone would begin to wonder. Then, if the coin weighs 13.40 grams or less I'll pass it up. It's just too risky. However in the 1836 example you showed us it looks like someone took a small diameter metal pipe and struck it when placedover the clasp thus adding incuse definition to the worn clasp. Maybe a .17 caliber shell casing?

In order to get that sharpness it had to be whittled and when you whittle there are shavings...

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Aww come on guys, (Susanlynn9 and halfabustisbetter) it's no big deal.

I disagree. I think it is a big deal. While I may not be an expert on these, I certainly have above average knowledge of this series. In spite of that, I believe now that I made a mistake. I think it's very important to recognize that anyone can make a mistake, regardless of how knowledgable they are about a series. As such, I think it's important to admit that and be willing to change my mind in light of more expert opinions than mine.

None of us should ever be so locked into an opinion that he/she is not willing to listen and consider opposing views.
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