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Bogus 1833 Bust Half

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 Posted 09/02/2014  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unholyroller to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Davignon made mention in his book, I believe, that silver dropped below face value in the late 1830's, making it affordable for counterfeiters to mix some in their wares.


I find this an odd quote to be making as if at any time in history the silver content of any coin were to exceed the face value (the quote seems to make reference that silver value below face is the exception and not the norm) coins would stop circulating and instead be hoarded.
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Unholyroller ... Not a blanket or general statement on my part but with regard to the production of counterfeits - I mentioned that because the lower silver value then made it more affordable for counterfeiters to mix some silver in with the pot metal. Thus, the cheaper silver would enhance the color of the counterfeits and give the fakes something of a "ring" which would then give the pieces a more legitimate look. It's clear that the Hard Times era saw a sharp increase in the production of these counterfeits, evidenced by the comparatively high ratio of CBH's to the then newer Seated Liberty design.

One of the reasons we have so many high grade CBH's today is that they generally didn't see much circulation in those early years. As specie coins, they were hoarded by banks and individuals who could afford to "sit" on silver these coins.
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Bust Halves are very plentiful because they were used in bag quantities to transfer large sums of cash from bank to bank.
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Bust Halves are very plentiful because they were used in bag quantities to transfer large sums of cash from bank to bank.


....considering there was no Dollar coin (save the Gobrecht) while they were minted.
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Yes, they were used for backing at local banks, but many of those available today are from the Harmony Hoard
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The amazing part is that the dealer didn't know it was fake

Makes you wonder about the dealer
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There's an 1825 Bogus Bust half up on ebay right now. Seller doesn't know its bogus. I think its starting at about $65. I already have a few of that variety (1/A) so I'll pass on it....
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