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 Posted 08/16/2007  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Remember to mark the customs label as a gift and keep monetary value low so it will clear customs as each nation has a limit before customs taxes MUST be paid.


If you want to break Federal Law to help someone else cheat on their taxes, you go right ahead. We don't.
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 Posted 08/17/2007  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly agree with the comments posted.

I have sent 15 coin packages to Australia, and all have gotten there, although one did take three months!

I just mark the customs form "Numismatic Items," and check the "gift" box.
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 Posted 08/17/2007  02:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Numismatic Hobby Supplies" has never failed me yet!

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 Posted 08/17/2007  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In Australia if I remember right, if the declared value is over 200 Australian dollars, the tax customs will love to take at least 10% of the value as well as the postage fees (yes, I was taxed a couple of times). Do warn the receiver end that if you do put in higher value on your declaration form, they will tax accordingly to it.
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 Posted 08/17/2007  05:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muckeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
'Second metal die stampings", never failed yet. And a very honest description, if I say so myself.
'Gift' and 'low value' seem to be most important phrases.
Sample and NCV (no commercial value) are also helpful terms to use in the description.
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 Posted 08/17/2007  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From Kuwait it's even harder being in the middle east.....but I've sent 2 to Australia and both have been received.

I wrote gift on my package.

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 Posted 08/17/2007  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, an additional comment regarding insurance.
I bought an An X1 40 Franc coin from a lady in france. That's a little over 12 grams of gold, 209 Euros, or Oz$355. It didn't arrive. The seller made a claim on the French Post Office, and eventually I got my money back.
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 Posted 08/17/2007  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Condor I only ship Registered when it is such value it MUST get there with out a doubt. It is worth the extra bucks to know and, as I said, I never insure. Registered mail MUST be signed for by every carrier that handles the package and when the package is on the ground it must be locked in a safe over night if not in transit.

I agree completely IF you are mailing domesticly. But we are talking about an overseas shipment here. Yes Registered mail must be signed for by every carrier UNTIL IT LEAVES THE US. Once it leaves the US and is turned over to the post office of another country the normal rules for registered mail no longer apply. It may not, and probably won't be signed for by everyone who handles it. It may not be kept locked up overnight and may just be left with the regular mail. That is why the MAXIMUM pay out that the Post Office for a lost overseas Registered mail package is $47 no matter how much it is insured for. They have no control over it and they will not take responsibility for it if it is lost or stolen. So if the most coverage you have is $47, why pay the high registered mail fees? (I believe that Registered mail to APO addresses still have the normal Registered mail protection.)
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 Posted 08/17/2007  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Posted - Yesterday : 12:23:09 PM
"Numismatic Collectible" Most postal employees will think it's an old drill bit.

Fantastic. Not to nice to say about our postal employees but if the shoe fits.....
I agree that the word Numismatic is not a normally used term among the majority of our populace. I used to send lots of packages to my son when he was in Europe and never thought of some of these great terms. Usually I just said "School stuff" since his main address was the University of Krakow. Never a problem.
Out of "Stamped Metla Disks", "Numismatic colletibles", "Tokens", "Hobby Supplies" I like the Numismatic terminology the best.
"Old drill bit" I like that.


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 Posted 08/17/2007  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Condor while I agree with your statement entirely the point I was trying to make was the fact insurance is worthless and, at the same time, I have NOT lost a package to any destination in the world whether it be registered or not. Registering is more for my frame of mind as I am well aware of what postal authorities are like in many other nations and most collectors in other countries will not hesitate to give you proper instructions if needed.

Bobby the point I was trying to make is the fact that face value description is not in violation of the law. If you are sending $3.85 worth of Euro's out and insurance is not an option, regardless of what they are actually worth, whether it be $100 or $1,000, customs officials are not in the position to declare your gift as more than what you have stated. To the non collector the package may only have a $3.85 value but to someone on the other end who needs said coins the value to them could be considerably more as is demonstrated quite often on ebay.
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Bobby the point I was trying to make is the fact that face value description is not in violation of the law. If you are sending $3.85 worth of Euro's out and insurance is not an option, regardless of what they are actually worth, whether it be $100 or $1,000, customs officials are not in the position to declare your gift as more than what you have stated.


Ohhhhhhh, you are so wrong. Send an 1804 Draped Bust quarter to Canada mark it with a 25¢ value and gift. If it gets opened at customs (and they do open packages) you will get a knock on your door. Customs officials have considerable power. They are guarding the border of their country and take it very seriously.

I'll say it again, why risk ruining your own life to help someone else cheat on their taxes? Lying on a customs form is extremely serious.
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Well thanks again for the help everyone. I shipped the coins a few hours ago described as "Numismatic Collectibles", claimed the actual value paid (and provided copies of the receipt), and insured for that amount as well. I indicated that they were "merchandise" and not a gift. I didn't want to do anything fraudulent and I definitely wanted to insure them, if for no other reason than peace of mind. I have a couple more to send out as well, so I hope this works. Keep your fingers crossed for me!

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