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 Posted 09/18/2014  3:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add YoshiRules to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello CCF,

Shout out to user ValiantKnight for sending me this coin, and thank you for it, but I don't even know what it is

Ancient-Coin-ID?

Ancient-Coin-ID?

Region?
Emperor?
Date?
Metal?
Unit of currency?
Any info would help please. Thank you.

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 Posted 09/18/2014  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HawkHybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm guessing constantius 2, fel temp reparatio, sis mint

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 Posted 09/18/2014  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome. Good to see it made it. I'll admit, this one would be tough with no prior knowledge, so I'll help you out with info. A lot of Roman coins (not all, like Greek Imperial provincials) have Latin words and letters on them, so reading them is generally easy if the legends are still there (actual meanings of the words/phrases are another thing!), so on your coin, the obverse is tough to read, but fortunately the reverse legends are clearer, so the word REPARATIO is readable on the right side (if you look closely you'll see in front of REPARATIO the words FEL TEMP. On later Roman coins (generally after the mid 3rd century or so), the mintmarks are usually on the bottom of the reverse, in an area called the exergue. In your coin's case its BSISZ (either Z or one of those strange Siscian symbols, can't recall, but you have enough of the mintmark for an ID). Any mintmark with SIS in it means its from Siscia (in modern-day Croatia). Whenever you see FEL TEMP REPARATIO together with what looks like a man leaping over a guy and his horse, its the soldier spearing fallen horseman reverse, struck from the 350s-370s.

Several rulers used this reverse, so a quick rule of thumb: if you see a diadem of pearls or a rosette diadem (fancier, more detailed) and a couple of pearls trailing, you are looking at an Augustus (as opposed to the lesser bare-headed Caesar). Two rulers that struck this type were Augustii: Constantius II and his brother Constans, CONSTANTIVS and CONSTANS respectively. Of the Augustii who struck this type, the only exception is Magnentius, who is bare-headed on all of his coins. Last time I checked the name is more or less visible, but if you can't really distinguish the individual letters, the number of characters will usually tell you who it is. More characters=longer name, so in this case, yours is Constantius II (if all you have are endings of the names like "TIVS" and "NS", that will tell you also who it is). He struck the most of these coins, and the mint that struck the most of this type was Siscia, so when you find one of these, its a safe bet its going to be a Constantius II from Siscia. Also this type is made out of bronze.
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09/18/2014 5:48 pm
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 Posted 09/18/2014  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's an example I have of this type. This one is of Constans, from Arles mint, and is larger:

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The horse is hard to see but its there.
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09/18/2014 5:44 pm
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 Posted 09/18/2014  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing resembling a horse on the back. From what I can look up, Constantius II was a co-Agustus from 337-350 AD and lived as Agustus til 361 AD, so the date range of 337-361 AD will do.

Region: Roman Empire (specifics?)
Emperor: Constantius II
Date: 337-361 AD
Metal: Bronze
Unit of Currency: ?
Mint: Siscia (Sisak, Croatia)
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Oh theres a horse Its that oval thing with legs under the guy reaching with his arm upwards. The denomination would be Follis. A more modern designation would be AE-3 (there's AE 1-4 for late Roman bronzes. Its based on size, so 1 would be largest and 4 smallest). AE Follis is acceptable as well. If I recall correctly the specific region Siscia is located in was called Pannonia.
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 Posted 09/18/2014  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anything else about my coin that I have yet to know? Might as well

I am interested in knowing what the obverse says; can you help me with this? Also, and I think that this might be a differing design-thing, but can you post some examples of the coin that I have so that I can see this silly horse that you say is there?
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 Posted 09/18/2014  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure. With late Romans, the obverse legend is usually in this format: D N (emperor's name) P F AVG: Dominus Noster (name) Pius Felix Augustus ("Our lord (name), pious and happy Augustus").

On yours it would read D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG.

Give me a moment and I'll post a clear Fallen Horseman reverse.
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 Posted 09/18/2014  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a coin I used to own:

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The horse is kind of pushed to the ground with the rider still on it.
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 Posted 09/19/2014  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OH, so THAT'S what all of those random letters meant on Roman coins I've seen on this forum! Ya learn stuff every day, I guess.

AE-3 indeed, it measures 17.9 mm, and I know this because I compared it to a usa dime and it actually matched up spot on

I found this online:
1 gold aureus = 2 gold quinarii = 25 silver denarii = 50 silver quinarii = 100 bronze sestertii = 200 bronze dupondii = 400 copper asses = 800 copper semisses = 1600 copper quadrantes

Is the follis like the denarii (or ANY of the above) or is it it's own system/category?
Also, only AVG people wore wreaths on their coins? (generally speaking)?
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 Posted 09/19/2014  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty much part of its own system. By Constantius II's time all of those denominations you listed had already been discontinued.

Here's a cool poster showing the main Roman denominations over the course of the empire:

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Yeah generally the Augustii had the wreaths/diadem (for the later empire that is; earlier emperors from the first couple centuries AD can be found both crowned and uncrowned on their coins). Both Augustii and Caesars can be found helmeted.

Edit: Caesars can be found with the laureate wreath as well sometimes.
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