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Antiochus VII - AU Ancient

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 Posted 09/20/2014  9:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This came into my possession and figure I should share.

Antiochus VII (138 - 129 BC) Graded NGC AU.

Minted in Antioch Syria.

Obverse: Diademed Bust of Antiochus VII
Reverse: BASILEWS ANTIOXOY EVEPGETOY Monograms Left field, Right field H. Athena Standing with Gorgon Shield hand outstretched holding Nike with hands outstretched holding wreath all within a wreath.
Ref: SNGIs 1855.1
Note: Exceptional.NGC AU cert# 1937243-067

I would love to hear what y'all think.



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 Posted 09/20/2014  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shot from inside the coffin.

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 Posted 09/20/2014  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know next to nothing about Seleucid coins, but !
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They are some of my favorite coins. The skill and mastery of portraiture has always gotten me. Especially the coins of Antiochus VII and VIII have neat reveres with everything that makes ancient coins cool.

Take this Antiochus he is number VIII and has a Zeus Uranus Titan reverse.


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 Posted 09/20/2014  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a super coin with fantastic details. I think NGC graded it a little low though maybe not as struck but a bit higher than AU. I would live to have one of these in my collection.
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I do agree they are lovely to eye,but I never could read greek . Thats probably why I never did get into many Greek issues.
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 Posted 09/20/2014  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on what I've seen most of these are struck off-center, on small flans or have field issues. Your coins seem choice and high grade as well.
Very nice
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Well thanks guys for all the coin compliments.
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gorgeous coin AN...I may be feeling the first symptoms of Seleucid fever coming on.
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Although I agree with the actual grading, NGC is a little strange in giving "AU" for an EF ancient coin.

Ancient coins generally are graded in this level of condition in EF or 'As Struck' (depending on condition with qualifiers), when it comes to condition.
There are many detracting minting problems that affect ancient coins, including these:
poorly shaped flans
flan splits
incomplete design detail
incomplete legends
poor striking
poorly executed design.

'EF' and 'AU' (Sheldon) can apply well to machine struck coins, but unfortunately, some or all of the problems mentioned can affect the grade of ancient coins. The Sheldon system does NOT lend itself well to the grading of ancient coins. In my opinion, the Sheldon system works best WITHOUT verbal qualifiers.

I say 'unfortunately', because if there are any problems that affect the grade, they should ALWAYS be mentioned in the seller's description, if these problems are present, and thus verbal qualified grading is needed, unlike the Sheldon system for machine struck coins.

At least, I applaud NCG for grading ancient coins, when most TPG's will not.

I wish it was easier, but such is not the case.
Auction catalogs of World standing give a good guide in the grading of ancient coins.


By the way, that is a very nice Seleucid tetradrachm, and I would love to have it in MY collection!
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Excellent coin, I want one too!
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