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Whats Up With Sgs?

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every now and then I come up upon an SGS coin on ebay. most of these coins SGS grades Ms-70 when really they are probably AU or a cleaned Ms-63. If you see a coin graded MS-70 by sgs and you think its a great deal. Dont buy it. you are just wasting you're time.
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 Posted 08/26/2007  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost every coin SGS grades is a 70.
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 Posted 08/26/2007  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pocket change put in plastic. if you have money you don't know what to do with and you want an SGS coin just send them your money and don't worry about getting the coin it is junk anyway. I warn all the ebayer newbies that bid on them I have been doing it for about 4 years now no one has reported me yet except that nimrod with the abon name lol go figure
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 Posted 08/26/2007  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like Gary said, and to add they sell them and slab them, 2 things that should never be the same.
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 Posted 08/26/2007  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gotta worry about another ebayer with the name "S"teves "G"ift "S"hop that sells SGS slabs also (who figures). He claims just because the first letters of his nick spells out SGS doesn't mean he is aboncom or the one behind the SGS grading company
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 Posted 08/26/2007  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SGS is a carp "grading company" (I wouldn't even call them that) who's sole purpose is to make money off of new collectors. They should be avoided 100%!
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 Posted 08/27/2007  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westbozy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
whats a sgs?
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I think I read somewhere that Steve and ABON are brothers or son and father. I cant prove it though so it is just speculation now. but when I got banned from bidding on Abon's coins I was also banned from Steve's auction. lol tell you anything?
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LOL, do they really think they were doing you a disservice from banning you from their auctions?
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 Posted 08/27/2007  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think SGS stands for Star Grading Service.
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they are just doing what other dealers have been doing for years, they have just taken it to the next level of crookedness. A dealer used to put a VF coin in a 2x2 and call it AU and unsuspecting collectors beleive the 2x2 because they couldn't grade, they are using the same techniques except they are going after the people that have grown to believe what the plastic says instead of the 2x2 and they are using the trust that real TPG companies have earned against new unsuspecting collectors who see it in a big plastic holder with a grade on it and automatically think that since the plastic says its that grade then it must be, not knowing they are just dealers putting in their own inventory in the plastic holders and they are the graders them self and not some other third party who has no interest in the coin what so ever. I am in no means saying I agree with their tactics and would love nothing more than to see them and all the other self slabbing companies go away but as long as people beleive the plastic and don't learn to grade they will always have customers willing to pay them high prices for what a veteran collector wouldn't carry around as a pocket piece
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 Posted 08/27/2007  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westbozy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so you all say stay away from sgs? that's the impression I'm getting by reading the responses.
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I would stick with PCGS, NGC, ICG, and ANACS. These are well established and professional grading companies.
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quote:
so you all say stay away from sgs? that's the impression I'm getting by reading the responses.


If you know how to grade then by all means if the price is right bid according to what grade you think it is, just don't rely on the plastic to give a honest representation of the coin inside
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 Posted 08/28/2007  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westbozy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for info for the most part I haven't bought anything from any of these companies but I did get some cents that where graded but Littletons.
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SGS has never seen a coin that they didn't love.
(SGS= Sucky Grading Serviceless).
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08/28/2007 2:33 pm
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