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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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This seller has this coin posted now at least 8 times. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canada-10-Ce...S:SS:US:3160He refuses to accept that ICCS made a mistake. and ICCS does not care. I did actually make them aware of it, but no action was taken.  IMO, a typical example of " in our opinion", and it does not matter if it is right or wrong.  Charlton is very clear on what a Large 9 in this coin must look like. Then, I might be totally wrong? Am I ? |
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47 I took a close look at this and I think ICCS is correct..This is a large 9
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Large 9.
p.s. I have a small hoard of these (21).
doug
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Pillar of the Community
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Large in my books as well. I have found that in nearly 30 years of dealing with Brian Cornwell and then ICCS, there is not a problem with him saying he makes a mistake and then corrects it. They are spot on with this coin in my opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
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So, how do you guys then explain the very small inside of the 9?
large 9 has a large, nearly round inside!
There was a mistake in one of the Charlton Cataloges.!!! It was then corrected the following year!
please check again to confirm.
I have both, small and large, double. and Both ICCS certified. both 9s are large inside!
I bought them when the mistake in the book was listed. it was reversed!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Paccoin, if you have any certified, please check them.
same goes for all of you.
I have $ 10 for 4 a charity, or a poor single mom, or elderly poor lady ( I sometimes buy them their groceries before xmas at stupid store) that this coin listed is NOT a L9.
please convince me otherwise.
thanks
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Colonial token, please check yours, special;ly the graded ones and compare with Charlton...
you will see what I mean!
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Pillar of the Community
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The hole in the 9 can become apparently smaller due to die wear combined with wear on the coin. Look at the position of the 9 instead, top of the large 9 protrudes slightly above a line drawn from the top of the 8 to the top of the 2, small 9 will be below this line. The ebay coin is indeed large 9. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
United States
840 Posts |
All 21 of mine are ICCS certified with grades
ranging from G4 to VF30. They are in a bank
safety deposit box and are not readily accessible.
doug
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47p7- The date is evenly worn therefore everything is as proportional as it was before. Considering the entire date is a little flattened or spread out the center of the 9 looks as it should..large. A small 9 evenly worn would still be small. IMO
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I fully recognize what you guys are saying and I like to believe it.
However, I still have many questions about it.
One of them being:
why would Charlton not indicate how to recognize a large / small nine, why do they show the inside round as the difference?
another: why would they not simply show the height of the 9 as the marker? would be so much easier. right?
it is a constant learning, as I believed it to be the round inside of the 9.
I know, metal "flows" with wear. But does it flow in exact proportions in all directions?
Edited by 47P7
10/02/2014 1:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
840 Posts |
Rather than fussing over the large 9, examine Charlton's photo
of the small 9. The small 9 is noticeably tinier, and distant
from the adjacent numerals. The top of the small 9 in noticeably
lower than the adjacent numerals, and the bottom is noticeably
higher than the adjacent numerals. If the small 9 can be eliminated,
from consideration, the 9 must be of the large variety.
doug
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:
why would Charlton not indicate how to recognize a large / small nine, why do they show the inside round as the difference?
another: why would they not simply show the height of the 9 as the marker? would be so much easier. right? There are many markers which Charlton's cannot mention for copyright reasons, this may be one of them. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Just looked at 4 1892's.
and this is honestly the first time that I look at them from your perspective.
I have to totally agree with all of you.
Sorry for being so persistent.
so far I have only looked at the fat inside 9.
Thanks for making me re-consider.
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United States
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That is what we are all here for. To learn...
doug
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