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1864-S Seated Half Too Shiny?

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 Posted 10/08/2014  8:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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Polished like crazy or fake? The date looks too close to the date for that mintmark.

Sorry typo. I typed 9 instead of 8.
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 Posted 10/08/2014  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srcliff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, if it was a "1964s" seated half it would definitely be fake!
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 Posted 10/08/2014  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srcliff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ha! I looked back and saw the 1864 and for a second there thought I was loosing it!

I do agree with you that something looks off with that coin....old fake maybe?
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 Posted 10/08/2014  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure if it's a new fake or old fake or not fake... The only thing I know is that it looks funny.
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 Posted 10/08/2014  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found that date location in my research. Whether or not it's real, it is definitely a harshly cleaned coin. The crud stubbornly clinging to the stars is proof. It's a shame - this year/mint is a real sleeper in the series, and begins getting very tough indeed in this grade.
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 Posted 10/09/2014  12:19 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine to me but as SD said, it's got all kinds of problems.
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 Posted 10/09/2014  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
She needs to be in a pocket for a year or so to wear that polishing off. But she IS shiny pretty!
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I didn't want to call fake because all of the other details are right, but way too shiny so that I got suspicious. You guys confirmed that it was polished too much. This is the first time I've seen something this polished until it looks pretty goofy.

It's a pity for this coin. is this one of the key dates?
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I'd say real and it was a decent XF45 to 50 coin with a couple of small scrapes on the reverse before it was polished. Now I would probably net the coin as a VG 10 to F 12.
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So cleaning lowers the grade of a coin instead of just giving it a details grade? So a cleaned XF coin wouldn't be just XF details?

Waste of a good coin, I've read a blog where the guy wrote that he cleans his coins by putting them in a cloth pocket and put it in the washing machine and they cone out all shiny.
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 Posted 10/09/2014  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're conflating Details grading with Net grading, two completely different things. Details grades estimate the true level of detail on the coin, while Net grading estimates value. Conder's saying the coin should be worth an F-12 price.
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Thanks for the explanation SD. How exactly is a Net grade determined?
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 Posted 10/09/2014  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
How exactly is a Net grade determined?


Experience, and knowing the market for the coin. It's even more subjective than the grading itself.
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 Posted 10/10/2014  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I vote for real, but cleaned harshly.
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