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1951 Canadian Quarter Low Or High Relief?

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High or low relief?

1951-Canadian-Quarter-----Low-Or-High-Relief?
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Need to see the other side.
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1951-Canadian-Quarter-----Low-Or-High-Relief?
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guaranteed high relief without even seeing the obverse, unless some kid spent a quarter on a pop and bag of chips after stealing it from a collection back in the day. The Low relief are PL only any MS are misattributed.
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Pacificoin,
I was wondering before this post at some time or another. How can you be so sure that there was a misappropriation?
And, where, by whom and when was that discovered? I would assume that the Mint would seldom, if ever, admit whatever they would have to admit here.
was it the mint? or a TPG?
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Is the quarter worth more if it is a high relief?
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The low relief is worth more.
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Research years ago by noted Canadian numismatist Michael Findlay and others states that MS coins are misattributed and it is a PL issue only. The 19 pieces in the 2014 ICCS mint report are listed as MS and are NOT mint state coins. I have handled aprox. 5 or 6 original RCM white boxed mint sets with the copper staple holding the coins in their original RCM cellophane , (very similar to the early 1950's US proof set packaging) and can definitively say that in all of these sets the Dollars and the 25 cents were proof like, all of the rest were mint state examples. And surprise , surprise all of the 25 CENTS were LOW RELIEF PL's !! If someone can show us a legitimate MS60 or better Low relief 1951 25 cents I would be totally fascinated to say the least.
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The one I have (the only one I've seen that's not a misattributed ebay listing) is a PL.
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PCGS has graded one at AU58. Are there any ICCS misattributed low reliefs of equal or lower grade?
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Pacific, I hear what you are saying,and your reply makes a lot of sense. I am not trying to pick an issue here with you or anyone else. And with respect for you and the others mentioned, I do not see a proof positive beyond individual opinions and or experiences. all we have is the "say-So" of a few, but no proof. I would assume (and you all know what that can do) that the only source to verify or not, would be the RCM?
Off memory, I am not sure, but it seems to me there are other similar issues with other coins. Might be wrong.
Interesting subject.
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" Before 1958, there were few coins sold at the Mint. At that time, the best coins were selected from the ordinary run of coinage produced at the Mint and were put in cases and called Mint sets. In 1958 more attention was focused on these, our first uncirculated sets, but they were still selected from the ordinary run of coin......"
From an RCM official.(Master or Deputy Master)

The Mint does not even acknowledge the early PL strikes, yet they are discernable by collectors.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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@47p7. The real proof is to have someone show us all a legit ms business strike. Based on my own research and that of others I do not think anyone can. The early mint records on this sort of stuff is wanting to say the least.
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