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Home Insurance Company Long Service Medals

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 Posted 10/10/2014  12:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add retiredkper to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
These show up on ebay fairly often. The 50 year version is gold and the 25 year versions are sterling silver if so marked on the edges. However when the 25 year is enclosed in a heavy glass disc with a sterling silver edge band the medal inside is only silver plated bronze or brass! I recently bought one of these at a local estate sale so I got to see it first hand. The medal in the glass is not hallmarked like the silver ones that are not encased in glass and the one I have has a small rim flaw in the plating allowing the base metal core to show through.

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 Posted 10/14/2014  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To whom would these medals have been awarded ?

House-owners who didn't shop around for a cheaper premium, perhaps ?
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 Posted 10/17/2014  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have bought these off and on over the last ten years or so.All of
the medals I have seen are sterling silver whether encased or not.
These medals were awarded to employees of The Home Insurance Company.
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 Posted 10/18/2014  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add retiredkper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everest, have you ever seen one in the glass that was marked sterling on the edge of the encased medal? Have you ever taken one out of the glass and tested it if it was not marked? Thanks, Fred
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Pert. These medals were given to employees (I assume). The medal I have is named to a man who was an independent agent for 25 years.
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 Posted 10/19/2014  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add retiredkper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way here is the other side which I hope will show the edge chips were the bronze shows through.

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Retiredkpr.I have never seen one that was encased marked sterling.I just checked the remaining
five medals that I have and they are not marked.A few years ago when the price of silver went
north of forty dollars I broke a few out and sold them for their bullion content.They all
tested as sterling.Hope this helps
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Thanks Everest, that is mind blowing to me! Mine has a gold-brass looking metal shining through at about 4 o'clock on the reverse and edge. The edge clearly shows a break in the silver looking surface. When you broke your medals out of the glass was the glass one solid piece or two halves joined together. Mine looks like it could be made with two halves since there is some internal tarnish in the glass. Being a collector I would not break one of these out of the glass. If you ever want to sell any of these that are in damaged glass or already removed please let me know. Thanks, Fred
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Retiredkper. Actually the encasement is a three piece unit. A plastic inner core
surrounded by two glass halves. Thank you for the offer but I will pass for now.
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Thanks again Everest, that is interesting. Fred
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Here is an update to this old thread. I have been following listings on ebay and added my medals to come up with the following break down:
Home Insurance Company of New York

25 Years Service Medal
Sterling silver, 72.74 grams. (2.1632 oz ASW) 56.9 mm, plain edge stamped with "STERLING" and usually the makers name.
Obverse: company seal. Reverse: multi-line inscription, date and engraved name.

Type I; date (month-day-year) in raised letters and numbers.
Last line of inscription above date is "NEW YORK."
Reported dates; 1909.


Type II; date (month-day-year) in engraved letters and numbers.
Last line of inscription above date is "NEW YORK."
Reported dates; 1917, 1923, 1926, 1929, 1934, 1938,1947.

Type IIA; like type II but encased in heavy glass with a sterling silver band around the
outer edge. The band is marked "STERLING Henry & Co. Inc." The outer
edge of the medal in the glass does not appear to be marked.
Reported dates; 1941, 1947,

Type III; date (month-day-year) in engraved letters and numbers.
Last line of inscription above date is "FORMER AFFILIATES."
Reported dates; 1951, 1953.

Type IIIA; like type III but in glass with sterling silver band marked "STERLING". Date 1951

Type IV; date (month-day-year) in engraved letters and numbers.
Last line of inscription above date is "INSURANCE COMPANY."
Reported dates; 1957.

Type IVA; like type IV but in glass with sterling silver band marked "STERLING". Date Feb. 5, 1959.

Generally a die struck coin or medal will have a nice ring depending on size and the metal alloy provided that there are no planchet flaws. Cast pieces do not ring when tapped with a pencil. Type I has a nice ring while the Type II-IV medals do not. Specific gravity tests indicate that the medals are sterling and are therefore cast or made using powder metallurgy.
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