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my thinking, going by the weight is that this is a silver cotale from Florence in the early 1500's - item is 7.4g and 28(ish)mm but I cant find a ref with pictures - nice item tho  *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** to the Ancient and prior to 1600 coin section |
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Let me quote from: http://www.numismaticaranieri.it/pu...uti/9-38.pdf (#82 for Florence) Cotale 1530 I semestre. Ar gr. 7.36 FLOR ENTIA Giglio. Rv. S IOAN NESBATISTA S. Giovanni seduto di fronte, benedicente, regge nella mano s. una lunga croce astile; segno: stemma Guicciardini (Niccolò Guicciardini). Bern. 4051. Estremamente Raro. |
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Thank you for that Medieval, it has given me quite a lot to think about, certainly dont think it will be on ebay with a 99p start with no reserve. |
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This is a very beautiful coin, LaverdaJohn. Totally out of my area of attention so far, but it tempts me to investigate this era and region of coinage. Congratulations!
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Quote:Thank you for that Medieval, it has given me quite a lot to think about, certainly dont think it will be on ebay with a 99p start with no reserve. Your welcome. It looked a little spurious but I could not find a report on forgeries of it. Quote:
This is a very beautiful coin, Many (late) medieval coins have interesting/beautiful designs especially the gold and larger silver pieces. Would like to get some more but most are more expensive than ancient coins. |
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I was looking for any mention of forgeries myself, to be honest I'm not sure what to do with it, I have a few contacts and I will get it looked at.
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Have sent an email to the British Museum identification department with these pic's - amazing what you can do online these days, also asked if they had any reports of forgeries of this.
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Sat on the steps of the BM, they have identified this as silver 1\5 scudo Florence 1503 1533 is this the same as the cotale, hard to search stuff on a small screen
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In that period the Scudo was a gold coin, so it would depend on the then relevant comparative value of silver to gold.
The Italian catalogue I linked above considers it as a Cotale, if the staff of the British Museum prefer to use a different name for the denomination, then perhaps they can explain it.
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Edited by laverdajohn
10/27/2014 9:05 pm
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Not bored at all. I have been avidly following it with quiet interest! Great coin!  Edited by Valecrucis
10/27/2014 8:42 pm
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Happy that has been solved for you 'laverdajohn'. As for 'Valecrucis', have a close look at number 431 in that link  There is an example which is not in the Crusader Coin listings Edited by Medieval
10/27/2014 9:06 pm
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Yes Medeival, sigh. The area for me to explore, in my search for an ID, expands evermore. Enough for an utter novice like myself to get lost in permanently.
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Love the obverse on that one. Where'd you get it from?
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