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received these in the mail today from Europe. according to the dealer there, the 1886 is supposed to be a VF20. the 1891 a F15. just wondering how you guys would look at these? thanks for your help.     *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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F-Details - Cleaned. VG-Details - Graffiti/Scratches. Edit: Let me explain my rationale here. The 1886 may have VG Details at first glance, however I believe that the harsh cleaning has caused some of the details to becomes blurred and smudged so I think that this is infact a F-12 or even F-15 Details coin. Now for the 1891, this is a semi-key date coin, I have an 1891 in a very comparable grade, yours seems to have slightly more wear but I think it's of the same grade, surfaces may be cleaned or even cleaned and retoned or just original but the graffiti give it a details grade of VG-08 Details. Here's my 1891:  Edited by zxcccxz
10/22/2014 10:45 pm
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I'd say more like VG10 for 1886 and VG8 for 1891.
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I'll try my hand at these, I've never really graded or ID varieties before.
The 1886 one is Fine details, cleaned. Small 86, portrait 5. Can someone confirm?
The 1891 VG8.
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VG10 scratchy
VG8 scratchy
I agree OBV5 small 86
I see you've been using your Coins Of Canada guide SlurExe97. Much easier to differentiate 4 from 5 using the markers there rather than those listed in Charlton's.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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10/22/2014 11:05 pm
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Since you do not mention which European country it came from, let me make just a general note.
Grading approach differs from country to country especially when grading coins not from the home country, so I do understand why a non-British dealer would have graded the coins as stated.
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Vg details cleaned and scratched for the ten cents. Good 6 details scratched for the 25 cents
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They are certainly not that highly graded in the British grading system:
the 1886 nearly Fine,
the 1891 Good.
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 totally with Pacific on these..The 86 no would get anything higher at least not here in Canada.. US might see the dime at VG 10 cleaned and the 91 VG maybe |
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thanks guys. I might send them back.
I am very disappointed, as I normally trust this dealer.
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