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1788 Conder Token?

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 Posted 11/09/2014  9:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ladydiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I need help identifying these tokens. I have a set. I found a bit of information. They might be Conder tokens?

I am hoping someone can help with additional information on both of them and what they might be worth?



Thanks!

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 Posted 11/14/2014  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are 'conder' tokens. I often see them refered to as 'druids' or druid head. Not sure why as it does not look particularly like a druid to me.

They were issued by the mining company on the reverse. I am not sure of their value as often they are thought to be far more valuable than they truly are. As with most things the value depends on how badly someone wants it, but these have been well used, uhm, maybe not too well used. So do not expect to retire on them.
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Thank you for the information Tryna. I really like the looks of them. They will be a nice addition to my collection.
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I Googled
'anglesea druids token'
Found quite a few interesting sites related to this issue, well worth a read.
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These would probably go for around $15-20 each on a site like ebay. There are many many varieties of these...in UNC condition they commonly sell for $200+. If you Wikipedia "Conder token" you will find the history of these tokens, and I have also pictured my example of a 1788 halfpenny token there.

Cheers, Brandon
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These tokens were issued by the Parys mining company in Anglesey, Wales, starting in 1787. At that time there was a severe shortage of coins to pay the workforce. The management had a ready supply of copper and I believe, Watt at the Soho mint in Birmingham was contracted to make these tokens. I am at work and my reference books are not available to me as I write this. These tokens circulated widely and the idea of issuing tokens caught on, leading to the whole series of Conder tokens, known as Provincial tokens here in the UK. The druid was copied and used on other tokens not related to to mine.

There are contemporary forgeries of these tokens.

( "Conder" comes from one of the early people who catalogued them, and is a term more common in the US).

It is claimed that these tokens were the first in the series of Conder tokens. There is in existence a Halsall penny token which is claimed to be slightly earlier
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