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Over here in NZ we hear of all the odd things that are meant to be on the US one dollar note. Strange hidden messages, all seeing eye, masons symbolism etc. Is there any truth to this or is this just confined to Dan Brown books? Thanks guys
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 Posted 11/10/2014  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chriscoinz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I know, this is all myth. I am not an expert on bills, but I believe that there may be some correlation with the Masons.
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 Posted 11/10/2014  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't believe any of it.
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There is a lot of interesting symbolism and history. But if you're asking if the illuminati designed it.....no.
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The most unusual feature on the dollar bill is likely the Unfinished Pyramid half of the Great Seal. This features and unfinished pyramid, representing the continuing growth of the Republic, and the eye watching over the pyramid represents the deity.

There is some Latin text on the seal:
Annuit Coeptis: "[God] Has Favored our Undertakings"
Novus Ordo Seclorum: "A New Order for the Ages"

Both of these phrases pretty much mean the same thing as the pyramid image: The United States was the beginning of a new type of government, which was looked upon by God with favor.

According to the Wikipedia article, the Mason connotations of the seal, such as the "All-Seeing Eye", did not arrive until after the seal was used for the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_...nited_States
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what strikes me as funny is that those TV show programs all talk about how the government placed those hidden messages on the dollar bill, but they make it sound like it was always that way. The dollar bill we all know (and love?) has only had it's current design since 1928. I'd like to see how an older design would stack up with those conspiracy theorists... maybe a nice black eagle from 1899, or a horseblanket design.

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I can hear it now: the woolen mills industry controls the currency market and placed a hidden blanket on the reverse to make the public unconsciously accept their authority. Plus, the red seal notes are for republicans while the blue seal silver certificates are for the democrats! ... well, for all I know, that may have actually been the spin on it back in the day.
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The back of the current design American $1 note depicts both sides of the Great Seal of the United States. If there are hidden cryptic messages to be found, they are there because they are on the Seal, not on the note per se.

The "front" of the Seal is the coat of arms of the United States. This design has been used as seen on the note on official Documents of State (Treaties, Presidential communiques, etc) since 1885; earlier versions of the Seal used cruder, less realistic-looking eagles and had other design differences.

Unlike the front, the "back" of the Seal, the part depicting the Unfinished Pyramid, does not physically exist. Although the design was set down by resolution in 1782, it was never actually cut into a seal. The 1782 resolution expected the Seal to be used pendant-fashion, as was normal for the time and which would have necessitated both a front and back die, but pendant-seals went out of fashion shortly afterwards so an actual seal depicting the reverse has never been needed, and therefore never been made. The one depicted on the note is therefore an artist's interpretation of what it might look like, if they were to make one.

As for the symbolism: yes, some of the symbols used on the Seal, particularly the pyramid-side, are also used by Freemasons. It should be recognized, however, that the symbols are actually older than either the United States or modern Freemasonry. The Eye of Providence, for example, was popularized by artists during the Protestant Reformation who desired to depict God in their artwork in some fashion that did not appear too "Catholic-looking". The oldest known record of the Freemasons using the Eye, on the other hand, is 1797, 14 years after the resolution describing the Seal was passed. So if anything, the Freemasons borrowed the idea from the designers of the Seal, not the other way around.

Some of the myths concerning the $1 bill, including the "eagle turns toward the arrows when America is at war" and the "secret owl", are explored in this old thread.
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What about the rest of the denominations?
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Sap's post is a good one. I would point out that the Seal was designed at a time when Masons where in high esteem and influence. It is not inconceivable that the seal was designed in whole or part using Masonic motifs; as was the Capital itself.
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Thanks for the info guys, a lot of the info we get on your coins and notes here come from novels and movies. Like "National treasure" for example. its interesting to hear the real story behind them all
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The Freemasons weren't behind the seal on the back of the $1 note, but they were totally involved in hiding the owl on there.
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Actually if you read the articles carefully, the Eye of Providence was used by the Masons before the adoption of the seal.

The 1797 date is when it's use was published in a book of Masonic iconography. And since the publisher was publishing motifs already in use it seems fair to assume that was also the case with the eye of Providence. Indeed just a little digging clearly shows it was in use as early as the 1770's by Freemasons.
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