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 Posted 11/22/2014  05:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add april_86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello, please help with identification of this roman cache, there are 16 roman follis. I don't want to decompose them because I'm afraid to crumb them. So can anybody identify 1st and the last coin in the cache? And maybe approx time of deposit? thanks

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 Posted 11/22/2014  05:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add april_86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see PROVIDENTA VGC

and VAELIANVS AVG ?

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 Posted 11/22/2014  06:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell without knowing what the other coins are. Very nice find. Should be worth a bit if you decide to sell them like that.
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 Posted 11/22/2014  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second one is by my reading ...AVRELIANVSAVG.
Putting them into distilled water (or olive oil shouldn't destroy them) - but if you want to keep them together either for keeps or sale, that's okay as well.
Without knowing the coins in the stash there is no chance to tell an approximate time of deposit, except that (based on the Aurelian) it would have been after 270.
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 Posted 11/22/2014  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Id keep them together and try to sell them as found (or display them as found - very ard to get cois in this condition). You might get more for them.
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 Posted 11/22/2014  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would try to put the whole lump of coins in an ultrasonic cleaning bath, with distilled water. The lump may fall apart, into individual coins.
The risk remains that the individual coins themselves may fall apart as well. Sometimes, the whole body of a coin that has been buried for 1600 or more years, has deteriorated into corrosion products. The analogy is petrified wood, where the carbon has been replaced by silica.

If your judgemet is that the risk is not worth taking, then don't clean them. The lump of the coins together is probably worth more.

The age of a coin hoard is related to the coin of least age in the hoard. Refer Medieval's comments. (270 AD)
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 Posted 11/22/2014  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add april_86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for suggestions, if they were denarii I would decompose them, follis are not so worthy so in this state they have a real value and are a great piece of history. Especially that they are crumbly and little piece felt apart when I tried to clean the mud... No worth of risk...
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 Posted 11/22/2014  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that's just awesome that you guys/girls can find that stuff.
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 Posted 11/22/2014  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DISCLAIMER: Please don't do this

I could just picture my impatient, curious, and foolish self, drooling with eyes bulging grabbing these and having at it.
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 Posted 11/22/2014  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The is an interesting find. Did you find them in Poland? I haven't heard of many finds there. I would consider separating them, I would be too curious just to leave them like that. Sel's method is something to try. You can also try soaking them in olive oil, but that will take a long time for the oil to penetrate and loosen the coins. It's something I've use to separate a few coins not a lump like that though.
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 Posted 11/22/2014  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add april_86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no I found it in Italy, near Venice. In Poland I found about 15 silver denarii, but not in one lot, just lost in a hill fort. Also roman bronze fibulas.
I use to pick up roman coins in the past so maybe thats why I'm not so keen to see those coins. The risk of destroying it is too high. Second - follis are quite cheap and common

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 Posted 11/22/2014  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carlos2295 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an incredible find. I might keep them as is if they seem to be fused together. But overall, you definitely found something historic and worth something.
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