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Actually Unique 2014 Kennedy 50c Coins - How Many

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Ignoring special packaging --> labels, how many actual unique items are there

High Relief

/1/ 1964-2014 W Gold (K15)
/2/ 2014 P Uncirculated (K14)
/3/ 2014 D Uncirculated (K14)
/4/ 2014 W Reverse Proof (K13)
/5/ 2014 P Proof (K13)
/6/ 2014 S Enhanced Uncirculated (K13)
/7/ 2014 D Uncirculated (K13)

Q1: is /7/ actually different from /3/?

/8/ 2014 S Silver Proof (from the Silver Proof set, SW1)
/9/ 2014 S Clad Proof (from the proof set, P16)
/10/ 2014 P Uncirculated (from the unc set, U14)
/11/ 2014 D Uncirculated (from the unc set, U14)

Q2: is the 2014 S Proof in the Happy Birthday (HB1) and Birth (UB7) sets the same as /9/?

Q3: Are the P & D coins sold in bags and rolls the same as /10/ and /11/?

Anything else I'm missing? Not talking specific labels, just actual physical coins...

TIA!


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#1, No. The (3) is clad, the (7) is silver.
#2, Yes.
#3, Yes.
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Q1: is /7/ actually different from /3/?




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No. The (3) is clad, the (7) is silver.


Ummm, I think you meant YES as one being clad and one being silver certainly makes them different.
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Oh, and yes, you have it right. 7 unique coins.
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Unique!?
That means there is ONLY one.
I believe "varieties" is the more correct term.
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Let's argue coins, not English, but:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unique


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2
a : being without a like or equal : unequaled <could stare at the flames, each one new, violent, unique â€" Robert Coover>

b : distinctively characteristic : peculiar 1 <this is not a condition unique to California â€" Ronald Reagan>


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Usage Discussion of UNIQUE

Many commentators have objected to the comparison or modification (as by somewhat or very) of unique, often asserting that a thing is either unique or it is not. Objections are based chiefly on the assumption that unique has but a single absolute sense, an assumption contradicted by information readily available in a dictionary. Unique dates back to the 17th century but was little used until the end of the 18th when, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, it was reacquired from French. H. J. Todd entered it as a foreign word in his edition (1818) of Johnson's Dictionary, characterizing it as "affected and useless." Around the middle of the 19th century it ceased to be considered foreign and came into considerable popular use. With popular use came a broadening of application beyond the original two meanings (here numbered 1 and 2a). In modern use both comparison and modification are widespread and standard but are confined to the extended senses 2b and 3. When sense 1 or sense 2a is intended, unique is used without qualifying modifiers.



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So the usual 4 yearly regular issue and 7 special, High Relief?

Thanks!
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Yes, 11 different spaces in my Dansco album, of which 10 are filled. The eleventh may take awhile.
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Q3: Are the P & D coins sold in bags and rolls the same as /10/ and /11/?
This I honestly do not know for certain.

For all other denominations, what is put in the mint sets are different from what is put in circulation. Mint set coins are stuck with greater pressure and at a slower speed.

The rolled and bagged half dollars have a low enough mintage to be struck hard and slow, but I do not know if they are. Anyone else know for certain?
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jbuck, they are struck just like any other circulation coins. I wish they were struck the same as the mint sets. I wish they were handled better too.
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Thank you. Then that makes this list of eleven a list of thirteen, which you give in your excellent post.
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11 vs. 13: interesting... especially as the TPG don't differentiate. I guess once removed from packaging there's no way to tell for sure. Hey guys, there's a special label you forgot ("US Mint Annual Set")
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I was taking the question as how many arenunique in that they are only being made this year. Which would be 7. The other 6 are annual releases, but certainly different varieties. I feel grammatically correct in saying 7 unique coins and 6 annual varieties, for 13 differing coins to mak a complete 2014 set. Though you can rightfully argue the gold coin doesn't count.
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The only reason why I bought P&D rolls was to search for one nice "circulation-finish" example to complete my 2014 JFK type set. I did get one beautiful higher-grade 2014-D, which stood out like a jewel. The worst eight of them were so bad, I spent those!

Since I got the coin I was after, I now have a spare pair of P&D rolls, still in the box.

The "circulation-finish" JFK's are only available from the Mint in P&D roll sets or the 200-coin bags.
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DNA, I have never pulled a coin better than a 68 from any of the rolls I have opened since 2010.
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The worst eight of them were so bad, I spent those!


Anyway, yeah there are 7 "unique" JFK half dollars... As others have said..
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