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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1790 Posts |
First off Happy New Year everybody   These two coins caught my eye. They are both of Aelius Caesar(136-137) the intended heir to Emperor Hadrian. Unfortunately Aelius died very shortly afterword and Hadrian was forced to pick Antoninus Pius( although he was not known as Pius yet  ) Aside from my addiction to Roman history what is your opinion on these two coins as far as authenticity, and a "Just Price". Coin 1  Coin 2  Edited by Augustus Maximus
12/30/2014 6:11 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Happy New Year to you also. Not having any of his coins I think they are both very nice. We haven't seen very many from him here so it's nice to seen these two. Condition wise I think the first coin is better because it has most of it's legend.
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Pillar of the Community
 Italy
1790 Posts |
The seller who is offering these would agree with you Echizento . He has the first coin marked $45 above coin 2.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2480 Posts |
Very nice! Coins of Aelius are certainly not plentiful and those a wonderful examples. Interesting how he looks like Hadrian on the first coin. Perhaps the engraver had not yet seen the man.
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Moderator
United States
23731 Posts |
That's a big jump in price. If you don't mind saying. What is he asking for them?
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1790 Posts |
Tf that is probably correct. Aelius was on the frontiers ( Danube maybe) and had not yet met to address the Senate in Rome ,by the time he arrived in Rome 137 he died of a hemorrhage. Very similar to why early issues of Trajan look just like Nerva.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1790 Posts |
Coin 1 Said he would go to $190 - so a $35 difference.
Coin 2 $155
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Moderator
United States
23731 Posts |
His coins don't sell cheap, so I guess the price is within normal range.
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice coins - personally would opt for number 2, just because the portrait is better for him.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1790 Posts |
Compared to the rest of Vcoins they are a godsend . I think the average price for one of these on vcoins is in the $300's, it's rather outrageous .
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I think that both of these coins are genuine.
Check them for weight.
Although the details are a bit mushy and the fields a bit lumpy, that can suggest 'copy', I do not think that is the case here, but is the result of wear.
Supporting 'genuine' is the charcater of the radial edge cracks. Have a look inside those cracks with a high powered loupe, and examine for a tearing type of metal distress. The cracks would have been formed as the coins were struck.
Not even high quality pressure casting can reproduce the metal detail inside a genuine crack.
If you still have any doubts, take them to a bullion dealer and have them XRF'ed, checking for trace metals other than silver. The ancients knew nothing of eletrolytic silver refining.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1790 Posts |
Let me ask every one;if it were your choice which coin would you take
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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A 'no brainer' - the first one!
Why?
The legends are more complete.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4981 Posts |
cool coins of a fellow you don't see posted here very often AM...neato.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1790 Posts |
Interesting,and thanks Chris ,anyone feel free to give any advice.
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Pillar of the Community
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a fellow you don't see posted here very often You need to play more 'Guess the Emperor' -> https://goccf.com/t/192342&whichpage=42But whichever 'Augustus Maximus' chooses will be far better. |
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