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Is This Genuine Or A Fake? - Pictures Added

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The previous posters have said all. Pretty sure it is a copy but to remove any doubt you would need to show it to an expert in person. Since you are in the UK there should be a museum with a coin collection not too far away, next time you can show it to the curator there.

Just having coffee, after I have to rush to walk the dog before the heat starts - when I'm back I have a look into the relevant catalogue.
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None of my coins for this period are in that (fantastic) shape. This alone would make me suspicious. Remember, these coins were hammered and as such seldom were they 'true' in all aspects.

If I had the opportunity I would follow 'Meds' advice and get the coin authenticated, before purchase. If I already owned it I would still do that for my own peace of mind.

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Since my more detailed catalogue has only line drawings, I had a look at Mayhew and he shows two varieties of that type. None is a die match to yours. But the wear on your coin (if genuine) is in comparison uneven. If it is a copy, it is definitely a good one - could be a museum copy. Can only repeat my previous suggestion to show it to a museum curator, in hand it is easier to determine what it really is.

Btw, the attribution to Philip IV is by no means certain, in the words of Mayhew:

"It is to this period that the gros tournois with PHILIPPVS ... is attributed, but the proponents of this classification freely admit that it is arbitray. ... may belong to Philip III."
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These gros tournois are known for being among the most perfectly round of medieval issues, which seems to often raise the concern of their being modern reproductions.
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