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Pillar of the Community
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 And as others said, please post clear pictures of both sides if you want help with identification. |
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Puerto Rico
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Pillar of the Community
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Ditto!  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Still waiting for those nice clear photos. |
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I have made an offer to Charlie12 to send the pictures to me for posting.
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United States
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Use the Reply to Topic option and than go to upload image. Images must be less than 100k, Choose a file to upload and than upload it to your post. That's all you have to do.
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Pillar of the Community
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The offer to help post your pictures is still valid. Send them to me attached to an email, and I will get them posted.  |
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I have added your pictures.
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United States
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Glad that Fuzzy was able to help you with you pictures. This is not my area of collecting but I have seen coins of this type in the past. They are usually well worn and clipped and not in as good a condition as this one is. If real this would be the best example I've seen. I suspect that it's a copy and not a real coin of the period.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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 with Echizento . If this turns out to be fake don't let it turn you off from a wonderful and satisfying hobby though . |
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Pillar of the Community
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The previous posters have said all. Pretty sure it is a copy but to remove any doubt you would need to show it to an expert in person. Since you are in the UK there should be a museum with a coin collection not too far away, next time you can show it to the curator there.
Just having coffee, after I have to rush to walk the dog before the heat starts - when I'm back I have a look into the relevant catalogue.
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Pillar of the Community
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None of my coins for this period are in that (fantastic) shape. This alone would make me suspicious. Remember, these coins were hammered and as such seldom were they 'true' in all aspects.
If I had the opportunity I would follow 'Meds' advice and get the coin authenticated, before purchase. If I already owned it I would still do that for my own peace of mind.
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Pillar of the Community
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Since my more detailed catalogue has only line drawings, I had a look at Mayhew and he shows two varieties of that type. None is a die match to yours. But the wear on your coin (if genuine) is in comparison uneven. If it is a copy, it is definitely a good one - could be a museum copy. Can only repeat my previous suggestion to show it to a museum curator, in hand it is easier to determine what it really is.
Btw, the attribution to Philip IV is by no means certain, in the words of Mayhew:
"It is to this period that the gros tournois with PHILIPPVS ... is attributed, but the proponents of this classification freely admit that it is arbitray. ... may belong to Philip III."
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Pillar of the Community
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These gros tournois are known for being among the most perfectly round of medieval issues, which seems to often raise the concern of their being modern reproductions.
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