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1879-S Liberty Head Double Gold Eagle

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Any thoughts in this one?

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I'd stay away from anything with a fake barcode on it.
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Unless it's in a PCGS or NGC holder, I stay away from it. Just my humble 2 centavos.
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Looks like the case has seen better days. Could send it to PCGS or NGC for a new case and legit bar code or just take the coin out.
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OK, I'm going to remove the other thread and repost here.
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This is a notorious basement slabber, and you can expect a cleaned AU in a slab they label 66. I'd be concerned about authenticity, even.

1879-S is an impossible Condition Rarity. The overwhelming majority of them circulated, and I think the highest known grade is a few MS63's. There is no chance this is a 66.
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I have read that ALL dates of U.S. gold have been faked, almost all of the rarer ones in .900 gold.
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Unless you are purchasing the coin for melt, I would stay far away from it. The highest graded PCGS 1879-S $20 is an MS64. NGC's highest grade is an MS-63.
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That's good to know, jhp2104. Do you know if that 64 is recent?
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The MS64 came across the auction block in 2007.
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Thanks all. Will NGC it.
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In reviewing auction results it appears this coin pretty much trades as a common date below MS grades. As such I'd just crack it out and weigh/measure it before proceeding. My gut says genuine with AU details and worth about $1300 retail.
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The MS64 came across the auction block in 2007.


Interesting. I asked because I hadn't seen any 64's listed in the Pop at Heritage yesterday, but there are 2 noted now. Probably me.
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Take it the same issue with this 1920 Saint Gaudens?

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Take it the same issue with this 1920 Saint Gaudens?


You betcha. The good news is both your coins appear to be genuine U.S. Double Eagles. A quick weight, diameter, thickness verification will likely save you grading fees.

By the way, a 1920 Saint is a $100,000 coin in MS66 and a $1300 in AU55.
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