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Pillar of the Community
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We all know where the counterfeit coins are coming from, but if the word "Chinese" is offensive to the moderator, maybe I don't belong here.
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Moderator
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If you think it's cool to denigrate an entire people because of the actions of a few, then perhaps you're correct and this is an inappropriate environment for you.
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Pillar of the Community
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Are the number of reeds correct?
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Reeding is a bear with Morgans as multiple counts were used, sometimes in the same year. I view the need to count reeding on a Morgan as punishment, personally. Ain't much fun.  |
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Signing off, it was nice while it lasted.
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I'd like to think I'd notice that extra thickness but you never know. After I saw the original post I had to check all mine out and they appear to be fine (for thickness anyway.)
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Pillar of the Community
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Guess I need to use the micrometer to check the thickness too. What happens when they start making ones like this out of silver? Then all the dimensions will be to specs.  |
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@NickelGuy - They already do.
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They've been making them from silver for as long as they've been making them. The coins here might have been designed to be sold as a bag, where total weight is more important than individual thickness. As a standalone, they'd probably fool non-collectors.
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the reeding is also a dead giveaway As a master machinist and life long metal worker in my opinion these reeds were rolled on after the casting. It looks like they were straight knurled to me. Just my opinion.  Edited by Celticsoul
01/27/2015 07:25 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Aye often they're added on by an edge miller that's set to the wrong size.
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in my opinion these reeds were rolled on after the casting. It looks like they were straight knurled to me. Just my opinion. They're certainly far too sharp for the level of wear, indicating the coins haven't circulated much if at all. They weren't cast even if the rest of the coin was. |
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I'm going to bump this thread so it sees the light of day of the current users again. I think it's a very resourceful thread - as I stumbled upon this thread trying to find 1895 P Morgan dollars in google images that were circulated. Going to bookmark this tab for future reference & archive. |
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I just wanted to chime in and say that the Chinese have a longstanding culture of counterfeiting EVERYTHING and the Chinese government does nothing about it unless it affects China negatively. The more people understand this, the fewer people will hopefully buy these things. The very act of buying coins you know are fake supports them, and I don't understand why collectors do it under the guise of "education".
These are pretty poor-quality fakes, in my opinion.
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I don't understand why collectors do it under the guise of "education". IMHO, this thread surely demonstrates that fakes can be used to educate collectors. I consider myself to be a fairly astute collector who has often used fakes and altered coins to educate fellow collectors. Then too, I'm surely still learning, myself, and find this thread educational from my own perspective. For example, what SsuperDdave wrote about the bag weight is something that makes sense, something I'd not before considered. The pics of the stacks, fakes and genuine coins, are likewise educational. As a kid, I recall that Mom had a copy of Gainsborough's "Blue Boy" on the living room wall. She loved that copy. It didn't matter that it wasn't an original. It pleasured her to contemplate that portrait. I expect that many a coin collector will buy a fake for the same reason. The last fake I bought for myself was a Higley copper with a Becker counterstamp. If someone handed me $50,000 to buy a genuine Higley, I'd probably opt for a new roof, knowing that I can always visit my copy .... make sense, does it? |
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Posted 01/26/2015 1:24 pm
