Does This Carolingian Denarius Look Genuine To You?

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MichaelS Valued Member Netherlands 59 Posts	Posted 02/18/2015 12:59 am Hi everybody, As someone who specialised in the history of the Carolingians, I'd absolutely love to own a coin from one of the Carolingian greats (Pepin the Short, Charlemagne, Louis the Pious, etc.). Now I finally have the chance to purchase a Louis the Pious denarius for about 60 euro. A lot of money, sure, but worth it for a dream coin and perhaps not even that bad of an investment. That said - I'm still not quite adept at spotting fakes - especially from pictures. Could you guys please help me out? Thank you very much. Highest regards, Michael Edit: Personally, in my humble opinion, it looks genuine. Just making sure. Edited by MichaelS 02/18/2015 01:03 am Report this Post to the Staff

VisigothKing Pillar of the Community United States 4778 Posts	Posted 02/18/2015 02:56 am The style seems a little off to me, but even if genuine, I would pass this one and save up money for a better coin. Louis temple coinage are one of the most, if not, the most common of Carolingian coin types, so better ones are definitely out there that are not too expensive. I always enjoy an opportunity to post these so I hope you don't mind. Louis the Pious, Carolingian Empire AR Denier Obv: + HLVDOVVICVS IMP, legend around cross in circle Rev: + METALLVM, legend around cross in circle Mint: Metallum, struck 819-822 AD Ref: MEC 762 Louis the Pious, Carolingian Empire AR Denier Obv: + HLVDOVVICVS IMP, legend around cross in circle Rev: + XPISTIANA RELIGIO, legend around temple, cross in temple Mint: Unknown Carolingian mint, struck 822-840 AD Ref: MEC 794 Louis the Pious, Carolingian Empire (struck by Republic of Venice) AR Denier Obv: +HLVDOVVICVS IMP, legend around cross in circle Rev: +VEN/ECIAS, legend in two lines Mint: Venice (struck 814 AD) Ref: MG 456v, MEC 789 Charles the Bald, Carolingian Empire AR Obol Obv: Monogram of Charles Rev: [+ M]ETVLLO around cross in circle Mint: Metallum, struck 840-877 AD Ref: MG 1060 Report this Post to the Staff
MichaelS Valued Member Netherlands 59 Posts	Posted 02/18/2015 03:17 am Those are beautiful. Amazing coins compared to the one I posted. I think I'll take your advice then. That said, I hardly ever come across them - even though the Netherlands is the country where these coins are most proliferate. They're very rare purchases. I'm thinking the style looks off compared to your example because this might be a Dorestad (or perhaps Melle) mint. Edited by MichaelS 02/18/2015 03:20 am Report this Post to the Staff
VisigothKing Pillar of the Community United States 4778 Posts	Posted 02/18/2015 03:31 am Perhaps. I'm not well versed in style differences among Carolingian mints, neither am I an expert on Carolingian coins in general (that would probably be a different story if these were more affordable!). Since you live in former Frankish territory you might want to consider going out and metal detect for Carolingian coins. I know I would, for sure! Report this Post to the Staff
SimonCoupland New Member United Kingdom 1 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 11:33 am I've come to this post a little late in the day, but I've been studying and writing about these Carolingian coins for the past 30 years, and am delighted to help people understand them better. The first coin is a perfectly good specimen of the Christiana religio series minted between 823 and 840 - unfortunately with this particular one it's not possible to say where. The best place to buy one at a good price is ebay.fr, where they come up regularly. Dealers always charge more, and fixed price sales always ask more than auctions. If you're not fussy about a little chip out of the edge, they're very affordable. Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 1:00 pm Simon, I hope you'll continue to enlighten us with additional posts in the future. There is a core group of medieval enthusiasts here. While I don't collect that area, I greatly enjoy the pics and information. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 1:02 pm to the community Simon Coupland Hope you will visit us often and post your coins. Report this Post to the Staff
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