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I have this Constantius coin that I am having trouble attributing. Constantius AE 17 mm 2.2 gm The Rev. of FELTEMPRE PARATIO limits it to Constantius Gallus or Constantius II because Constantius and Constantius III didn't use this Reverse, as far as I can find out? The legend on the Obverse (I think I can make out) - .RPLC?CONSTANTIUS but I cannot find a match to that on any of the 'Gallus' or 'II" coins. Can someone please point me in the right direction before this Cyclone hits? Thank-you.   Edited by Topcat7
02/20/2015 02:00 am
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that the mint is confusing me.
It appears to be 7xxv
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DN FL CL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES as I read it.
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02/20/2015 02:04 am
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Thanks. I got hung up on what I thought I saw.
Do you have any ideas on the mint? I know that it is hard to read, but to someone who is more familiar with mintmarks it might strike a chord.
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DN FL CL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES would make it 'Gallus'?
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02/20/2015 02:12 am
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SM*#, with * either N (Nicomedia) or H (Heraclea), # being the officina - but based on the picture it could be a few different ones.
Postscript:
Yes, Constantius Gallus as far as I know.
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02/20/2015 02:17 am
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'Wildwinds' only has one match (of the legends) that being Nicomedia RIC 85
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As said before, the Wildwinds database is huge but does not contain every type. Check Tesorillo, otherwise you might need to check in RIC or other references.
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I have never heard of Tesorillo, before, but on checking there, it absolutely HAS to be Nicomedia, and therefore RIC 85
Thanks
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No issues from Heraclea had this particular legend. Mint mark looks like either SMN for Nicodemia or SMK for Cyzicus Regardless of which officina it is the RIC is the same. Without any field marks on the obverse or reverse, your coin is either: Nicodemia RIC 97 or Cyzicus RIC 106EDIT: IMO, having looked at examples from both mints, it is clear that your coin is from Nicodemia. The style is nearly exact and nothing like Cyzicus  Edited by Biancasdad
02/20/2015 02:56 am
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BD - I only have access to RIC 1 and even though I have it on disc, I don't know how to use it, BUT I cannot find a RIC 97 in Constantius Gallus, anywhere, let alone in Nicomedia.
You don't specify if the photos that you posted are RIC 97 (Nicomedia or Cyzicus)?
Are you able to copy/paste what you are referring to (FMI) please, or are the pictures that you posted RIC 97 (Nicomedia), because, they are my coin?
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02/20/2015 03:28 am
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It is Quote:
Nicomedia with the mintmark being SMN. Edited by Medieval
02/20/2015 03:51 am
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Topcat, I like to use Dane Kurth's pages here: http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htmThey are excellent, especially for late Roman bronze coins. As you would expect, there are likely some errors and entries missing, but it is an extremely thorough work and very helpful in narrowing down coins that have so many varieties. In addition, I also love using Coin Project: http://www.coinproject.com/index.phpEasy to navigate, and nicely designed description pages with convenient sorting options |
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In the future it is worth remembering that Gallus is best spotted by his bare head. No diadem !
At first glance I too see S-M-N-? for the mint mark.
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BD - I thank-you for your input. Re http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htm I have been referred to this page before but I cannot get into it/pastit/through it or 'whatever'. I am sorry but I cannot 'master' it at all. It is like flying a 'Jumbo Jet' (which I cannot do either). When you know how, it is easy. Until then it is like hitting your head against a brick wall. I will need instruction on how to use that site because I do not have the 'key'. I went to 'Choose A Coin Type' and I selected 'FEL TEMP REPARATIO' and there wasn't a single Constantius there, let alone a Constantius Gallus. I then tried the second link that you 'nominated' which was http://www.coinproject.com/index.php and I had much better luck there. I found the coins that you showed the photos of and clearly my coin IS RIC VIII 97. FVRIVS RVFVS I do thank-you for your contribution, too. PishPash had told me that (before) and I had forgotten. (So much to remember.) Thanks, again to every one. Believe it or not I am getting a number of them on my own, now, thanks to you. |
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You are welcome TC.
At first I really had a hard time with the spreadsheets as well but just kept asking questions as they popped up. Also, its hard to know what it looks like on your end. I am using Open Office 4.1.1 to open mine.
I am not sure why you can't see any Gallus coins. I am assuming you are opening the FEL TEMP for the fallen horseman type as there is another type for FEL TEMPS that he didn't issue.
Just keep at it as you have time and slowly but surely you will gain new bits of insight just like we all do even after many years of experience.
As long as we are willing to learn, there will always be members willing to help.
PS. I remember when I first started getting into ancients, I couldnt tell Gallus from Ghandi but after staring at 1000s of coin photos things starting seeming a little less overwhelming
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02/20/2015 06:33 am
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