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 Posted 02/24/2015  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without a second thought I would buy it for $100.

Nice coin
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 Posted 02/24/2015  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any idea of the white spots FR?
PS- Thanks FR
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Dandruff from the guy leaning over the coin !

I am not joking
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 Posted 02/24/2015  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Love it!
Thanks FR do you have further thoughts on this coin? For example how much do these usually go for Ect ect....
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Thought I might read up on Tiberius (I tend to do that when I buy coins of certain Emperors) so I cracked out my copy of Tacitus and read the chapter of the latter years of Tiberius. That was a big mistake, man I feel sorry for the Roman People
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 Posted 02/24/2015  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuy1530 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Blame the Senate who refused to buck up and run their own empire after Tiberius tried to give it up.
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 Posted 02/25/2015  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A.M. I would be happy with that coin for that money.

Tiberius doesn't come up very often, and when he does, he is well sought after, because of his reign during the 'Time of Christ'.

I would say a good example and not 'over-priced'.

The 'white' stuff - I wouldn't worry.

BTW - I don't see any B.D.

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Nice coin and yes, no BD that I can see.

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 Posted 02/25/2015  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin has several good things going for it. It is slightly off centered but that is no big issue really (the legend is 90% intact)
Looks like a bit of a worn die set but thats not a serious issue.
The surfaces are well patinated and smooth (for the most part) with minimal signs of corrosion. Great eye appeal !
The coin is of course 1st century (veeeery desirable) and is of a Julio Claudian (most desirable)
Lastly it is of the rarer type for Tiberius with the S C reverse being the 'garden variety'.

Almost any dealer would be asking $200 !
A few (swine) would be asking $300 or more .......

Its a 'no brainer' ! Scoop it !
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It is easy to be hard on Tiberius as a man. But he led a very hard life (despite being of the 1%). It is generally acknowledged that Augustus did not like him very much and he was over shadowed in his early years by his brother Nero Claudius Drusus. Later forced to divorce his wife (whom Tacitus believes he loved dearly) he found his adult life controlled by a domineering mother and an indifferent step father. When you look at the long list of imperial heirs who met premature ends it is not too hard to believe that something strange was going on. It was one heck of a family to have to endure (and survive !).
As far as the Senate goes we often forget just what sort a organization it had become. The Senate was really a Congress of the leading families (the 1%) of Rome and run very much in a 'tribal' sort of way. It was a Republic in name but represented the economic interests of the great land owners. Augustus had made himself the 'boss of bosses' (his power based on the office of Tribune ..... 'Veto !') by forming alliances and outlasting his rivals in a nasty period of civil wars. We can easily get blinded by the propaganda and study Rome as a textbook example of "Civics 101". In reality I believe it more resembled a government by 'La Cosa Nostra'...... with Tiberius acting as 'Don' (Vito)
Tiberius was a hard man who survived to an old age in a very hard system.
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Thanks FR, TC,Verm, and Chuy.
@FR , it's good to have another lover of Early Roman Imperial history here :)
What shocked me the most was the chapter on Tiberius and his self exile to Capri and what he did in said self exile
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It's only fair to throw an 'allegedly' in there when you're talking about scandalous imperial conduct. Emperors that the upper class didn't like sure do seem to have a lot of rumors relative to the others...
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