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A Wild Rarity Appeared!

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 Posted 02/26/2015  2:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Was bored so I browsed for any cheapo but cool coins I could pick up. Scored this Hilderic cross-potent coin misidentified as a different ruler. Wasn't expecting to expand my Vandal sub-collection again so soon after my siliqua Like I said I was in cheapo mode and the coin was misattributed so I got this for a very good price!

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Hilderic, Vandal Kingdom
AE nummus
Obv: HILD [REX], pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right
Rev: Cross potent within wreath, ring above
Mint: Carthage (struck 523-530 AD)
Ref: BMC Vandals 9


Here is my only other example:

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Copy+paste historical background from my other Hilderic thread:

Hilderic ruled as King of the Vandals and Alans, who contolled a post-Roman Germanic realm in North Africa with the capital at Carthage. He was the grandson of the famed Gaiseric, and son of Huneric, and Eudocia, the daughter of Western Roman emperor Valentinian III, meaning Hilderic was of Roman descent in addition to being Vandal. He ascended the throne in 523 when he was in his 50s or 60s, and his reign is marked by improved relations with his Catholic Christian Roman subjects (Hilderic and the Vandal nobility were Arian Christians) and by extension the Eastern Roman Empire and its ruler Justinian, who was a very good friend of Hilderic. After becoming king, Hilderic converted to Catholic Christianity, the same religion as his mother, and soon other members of the Vandal nobility converted as well. Other nobles were not pleased by this, however, and soon a coup occurred, led by Hilderic's cousin, Gelimer. Hilderic and his family were imprisoned. Emperor Justinian did not take kindly to what Gelimer had done, and after unsuccessfully negotiating for Hilderic's restoration, sent his forces to invade the Vandal Kingdom. Unfortunately Justinian was too late to save Hilderic, who was executed by Gelimer in 533, but his invasion of the Vandal Kingdom was successful and, as a result, for the first time in a century Roman rule was returned to Carthage and the rest of North Africa.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice, good spot. I'myet to pick up any Vandal.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ben.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find VK.
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cool VK, I wouldn't have been able to ID that for what it was...good eye.
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Very interesting VK, I am sure I have a couple of these type coins in my bundle.
Not knowing what they were I just called them " odd types " and threw them into a pile of others.
Now I have a name for them
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 Posted 02/26/2015  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It went to a good buyer who will appreciate it much better than anyone else. Really happy for you VK!
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 Posted 02/26/2015  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks all!

tenbobbit, yeah definitely give them a look-see. Mostly likely they will be the normal Roman ones like those of Honorius, Arcadius, and Theodosius II, but you might find a contemporary imitation ("barbarous") or possibly even a Hilderic (or a Placidia if you are extremely lucky). The coin in the original post has a distinctive style especially for the reverse so it can be safely attributed to Hilderic.
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VK, I hope you don't mind me posting a picture of one I have picked out ?
I don't wish to threadjack.
I took a couple of pics of 1 that I think is most likely an imitation but could be a Vandal type, I am keen to learn though.

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What little is visible of the legends doesn't seem to make any sense and the mintmark in exergue is IIII.
The portrait has a very strange eye position which makes it look Aztec.
Curious to know either way.
Thanks VK.
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 Posted 02/27/2015  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats a British imitation of the CONSTANTINOPOLIS city commemorative. Probably cut in the 4th century, but some people think the celtic britons kept making them until the Saxons started issuing their coins.
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 Posted 02/27/2015  05:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks BEN,
I realised after posting it that it was an Anepigraph type coin and like the imitation I posted a few days ago its a mirror image of what it should be.
I need to go through my coins again for a closer look.
Sorry and thanks VK, I will open up another thread when I find some more.
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