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Moderator
 United States
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Just received this purchase from one of our members. A Persian AR Siglos. I have very little knowledge about this type so I may be wrong with the attribution. Please correct me if I'm wrong. AR Siglos Type IV Time of Artaxerxes I- Darius III Circa 450-340 BC 16 x 12 mm x 5.3 grams Countermarked   Thanks Dutch.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Sweet! Is that a countermark on the obverse?
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Moderator
  United States
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Yes, the way I understand it is that it's a bankers mark.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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I like it, makes it unique.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Nice, way out of my field, what is on the reverse, do we know?
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Moderator
  United States
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No idea what the reverse is suppose to be if anything.
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Pillar of the Community
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Through my 'cross-hairs' it looks like a Goat, standing, facing right.
Edited by Topcat7 03/05/2015 5:58 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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The siglos is a reasonable way cost wise, to obtain a very ancient coin. They had a major part to play in in the development of the economy of ancient Asior Minor.
There are small variations in the types of these that include (dagger or spear) with bow. I believe the spear types were produced first.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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I think it is odd there is no writing on these coins  . This must be before legends were put on coins.
Edited by Augustus Maximus 03/05/2015 6:05 pm
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Moderator
  United States
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Thanks Bob, that's what I used for my reference.
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Moderator
 Australia
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Lydio-Persian darics and sigloi do not have a reverse design. They were made in the same fashion as the original, first-generation coins, with the reverse (hand-held) punch tool being just a plain, un-engraved chisel.
They don't have writing on them for the same reason: the Lydians, whose coins the Persians copied, were making coins before they thought of the idea of including lettering. They simply kept doing so, long after coinage art in the Greek city-states had evolved to include both text and a fully engraved reverse die. Conservative folks, those ancient Persians.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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sweet coin ski, and that little counter mark is awesome! I don't think I've seen one with a countermark, if I had I didn't notice. I had no idea they had so many. can you id your based on bobl's link?
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  United States
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Chris, I think it's a type IV but that's a guess on my part.
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United States
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I think about 8 years ago I was able to purchase a good sized lot of these, maybe 150 coins. It was a great way to see the kinds of design variations (spear, knife, archer), the fairly good weight uniformity, and of course the overall crude nature of the reverse. There were more than a few countermarks and I do greatly regret my lack of photographic skill at the time.
Those coins were gradually sold off.......
Paul
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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good to hear you like it! Its a very nice coin. I got one too with a countermark(or maybe 2): 
Edited by Dutchgulden 03/06/2015 02:21 am
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