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My First Ancient Purchase - Alexander III Tetradrachm

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Hello All! The main focus of my coin collection is on US Type coins, specifically early bust halves. However, at the coin show today, this coin caught my eye and I couldn't pass it up as I have been wanting an Alexander III Tetradrachm for a while now. Is the information provided by the dealer correct? If so, wouldn't this actually be a posthumous issue coin as Alexander passed in 323BC? I am reaching out to y'all to give me more information on my purchase. Thanks for your input!



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 Posted 03/07/2015  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man I have had a great day on CCF today. Your coin is just the cherry on top of all the great coins I have seen today. It looks like a lifetime issue. He may have just gotten the dates wrong. Also I hope you come down with Ancient fever soon!
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03/07/2015 10:36 pm
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 Posted 03/07/2015  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I am correct: Zeus's legs crossed= post death
Legs straight= lifetime
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 Posted 03/07/2015  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bakerskyline8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was what I thought was the case and I'm glad you supported that. I am very new to this as I said. I am used to attributing bust halves, but is there a way to attribute this coin to determine approximately where and when it was struck?
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 Posted 03/07/2015  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a good page for starters. Ihttp://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...th/feac45a3.
I only collect Romans so I can't help to much with identifying the mint. Echizento knows more about these, so maybe he can figure it out.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a reference work called "The coinage in the name of alexander the great and philip arrhidaeus" in two volumes, I have them in PDF version. Volume 2 has the plates. Unfortunately, I can't see enough detail on your reverse to compare.

Perhaps someone who is more used to this coinage would have better luck.
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Without wishing to cause alarm, I sent the topic to a friend who said the following...

"As regards the post you sent me, I'm not convinced it's Alexander. Apart from the fact that it's very fuzzy, especially on the back, there appears to be lettering on left below the eagle and (perhaps) in the exergue. I can't read it confidently as 'Alexandrou' on the right. It might be a contemporary copy by the Danubian Celts, they're not uncommon. If I'm right about the amount and placing of the lettering, it's not likely to be Alexander. I once bought a tetradrachm from Baldwins which was ticketed as Alexander but a glance showed that it read Seleukos! I bought it as a monument to the fact that dealers are not always right. "

Perhaps some of the guys will comment in the next few hours.
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I think it is Greek and not Danubian Celtic , the obverse is really Greek , for the reverse : the signs under the eagle can be a mintmark , I think , we need better pics .The lettering right is for me not Alexandrou , the referencework from Price , The coinage in the name of Alexander the Great and Philip Arrhidaeus is free on unternet.albert
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 Posted 03/08/2015  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did a search on Google images:
'alexander tetradrachm'
To my eye, the style of the obverse of the coin pictured did not match to any of the images found in the my search.
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it looks like a tetradrachm of Philip Arrhidaeus , Arados mint 323-316.I found it on https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/t...great-coins/ . albert
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The mint device is missing on this example. It would be extremely difficult to nail down. We can look at some other aspects of the coin.
The coin has a small flan relative to later issues. I am not 100% certain but the legs of Zeus might be of the straight variety making it a life time issue The title "King" generally will rule that out. The small size of the flan, heavy weight and height of the relief considering the state of preservation all point to an early posthumous issue. Possibly from a mint in Greece or Asia minor.
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03/08/2015 10:22 am
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 Posted 03/08/2015  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bakerskyline8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi everyone! Thank you all for your thoughts and opinions thus far. I have tried to take some better pictures, specifically focusing on the marks to the left of Zeus because I can't for the life of me get a good shot of the lettering on the right.




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sorry I can't be of more help, it doesn't look like one of the celitc ones to me, that's all I can add...other than..

to ancients,
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 Posted 03/08/2015  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Ancient coin collecting. From the reverse it does appear to be a lifetime issues, but I'm more inclined to believe it is an early posthumous issue as Ancientnoob stated. In ant event it's still a very nice tetradrachm od Alexander.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bakerskyline8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much for your input everyone. I definitely need to educate myself more before I look into purchasing more ancients, but I will definitely reach out to you guys when I do look to expand that side of my collection.
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You can check all the mintmarks and the different models of representations of Alex in : Numismatique d'Alexandre le Grand , L.Müller ,Copenhagen .It is free on internet.albert
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