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1859 Canada Cent

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 Posted 11/08/2007  5:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Chillchick to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have this Canada One cent I've asked about previous...well I sent the pic to an auctioneer so he could appraise it because if I sell it I wanna wanna sell it more around it's worth..THe auctioneer said that said its not worth then $10 is this true? I have pics of it... I mean it's in pretty good condition for being that old...atleast I think....[b]
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 Posted 11/08/2007  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chillchick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 11/08/2007  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't sell it through an auctioneer. If you're going to sell it, do I through a dealer who knows Canadian coins. There are a number of varieties of the 1859 and without someone knowledgeable, you may have a common one, or you may have a keeper.

Oh yeah, links to pics don't work, sorry.
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 Posted 11/10/2007  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add olmanjon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to see from those pictures--you need a good glass to see the different varieties. It might be worth up to $7500 if it is a brass near 9 or $10 if a bronze near 9. I have the 1859 double punched 9 #2 in xf. very easy to see with a good glass.
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 Posted 12/26/2007  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yah thats right , but that definitly is not a brass one.. we'd have to see better pictures to get a better idea on what variety it is.. um are you new at posting picture.. if you only have a regular old digital camera.. maybe try holding a magnifying glass up to the lense of the camera then take the picture.. it works really well without having to shell out the big bucks.. maybe try and focus the camera on the 59 in the date.. thnxs
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 Posted 03/17/2008  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mhh916 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need help I have the same type of victorian coin with the 1859 date but I am not sure which type of priniting it is and wheter or not it is copper. I will attach a pic but I had trouble with lighting. The coin is actually very good looking and I think is bronze....thoughts? and both pictures in the album are the same coin

http://good-times.webshots.com/phot...210868ZHKbOZ
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 Posted 03/17/2008  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mhh916 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ps: there is a zoom function you can click at the bottom of the picture to zoom in on the 9
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 Posted 03/17/2008  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good find mhh.

This looks like a Wide 9 (over 8). Then is likely around $100 at VF-20. Is the portrait upside down when you turn the coin around (like US coins?) or it she straight up?

Marc
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03/17/2008 11:54 pm
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 Posted 03/18/2008  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I could see those pics, but it looks like you're in good hands!
Congrats on that coin!
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 Posted 03/18/2008  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mhh916 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No the face is not upside down when I turn it over...Sorry I have never done this before what is VF-20?
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mhh,
The grade here is a measure of wear (or degree of perfection if you wish). The numbering ranges theoretically from 0 up to 70 (perfect). VF means "very fine" and is the old nomenclature that was used before we had those 0-70 numbers. We still use those adjectives to complement the grade. Here is a short list of adjectives and corresponding number that are generally accepted among collectors (and catalogs):

G (Good) 4
VG (Very good) 8
F (Fine) 12
VF (Very Fine) 20
EF (Extremely Fine) 40
AU (About Uncirculated) 50
MS (Mint State) 60

Of course, it gets confusing "in between" grades when "CHOICE" (meaning better than) or "ABOUT" (meaning almost) are thrown into the mix. For instance CVF-30 (Choice VF) or AEF-38 (About EF). To make matters worse, CAU-55 (Choice About Uncirculated) can also come up... "Better than Almost Uncirculated" it this is not confusing enough.

Fortunately, "choice" and "about" adjectives aren't used much anymore. Instead, intermediate grades typically use the lowest adjective. For example, your coin could be VF-35, but not an EF-35.

Hope this wasn't too confusing.
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 Posted 03/18/2008  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mhh916 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Just 3 more questions.
1) Why did you ask about the face being upside down?
2) Where or how would one go about selling a coin, because I need money.
3) Is there an easy way to distinguish whether or not this coin is bronze? I heard it is worth a lot more if that is the case.

Thanks for all your help!
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 Posted 03/18/2008  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi mhh,

1) If the face had been facing down, you might have gotten up to $1,500.00 for VF-20.

2) I don't know if this is the best way, but I personally sell through ebay.

3) The difference is the metal composition: Brass: 60% copper, 40% zinc Bronze: 80% copper, 20% tin. Brass is a soft metal that corrodes whereas bronze is a harder metal that lasts forever... Color wise I can't provide a comparative because I don't have a non-oxidized bronze coin. But I can tell you the difference between brass and copper:

1859-Canada-Cent

Edward VIII is in copper, Victoria is in Brass.

Marc


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 Posted 04/01/2008  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asciibaron to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks to be a W9/8 in VF - worth roughly $1500 if struck with coinage axis. would need a better picture to tell for sure.

from the OP's statement "the face is not upside down when I turn it over" makes me think it is struck using coinage axis.


tough to say without better pictures

-Steve
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