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1964 Foreign Coin ?

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Could someone identify this coin for me and give me any info... Please grade it too... It was given to me and I know absolutely nothing about it!
thanks

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Scudi is the plural of scudo which is the currency unit of Malta. Correction: Malta joined Euro-land this year and have started using the Euro..
Using Google I find that "Angelus de Mojana" has something to do with the Order of Malta - i.e. the name of a famous Grandmaster, the guy depicted on the obverse side it seems..

It's a nice proof Uncirculated grade I don't know how to grade proofs (there is a separate system) but it should be a lower to middle UNC grade like MS-62, 63...

Looking in wikipedia it gives a little info' on the guy di mojana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo...a_di_Cologna
I never knew there still were Knights Hospitallier!

Very nice coin by the way :)
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Does anyone have info on what the latin "nil coeleste nisi" means?
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I *think* that would be (loosely) "Nothing except God".
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quote:
Does anyone have info on what the latin "nil coeleste nisi" means?

I believe it means something like "nothing unheavenly". Probably the personal motto of the Grand Master; they weren't using it back when the Knights actually owned Malta. This site is the best Latin-English translator online that I have found.

The Order of Malta should not be confused with the government of the island of Malta; they are two separate entities. The Order of Malta has always struck coinage denominated in grani, tari and scudi - the old southern Italian units of currency, used on Malta back in 1798 when the Knights were evicted from the island. From a certain point of view, it could be argued that these coins are the last non-decimal currency to be issued by a sovereign power.

Modern Order of Malta coins used to be listed in Krause, in a separate section just after the island of Malta coinage. But in the past few years, these have been reclassified as "medallic issues" and the listing has been downgraded to the "Unusual World Coins" catalogue.
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Here is another one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MALTA-1965-1-...OF_W0QQitemZ290175960981QQihZ019QQcategoryZ72040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

I like this one even more - ecce angus dei (to be a sheep of god?!)qui tollit peccata mundi .... that tolerates badness of the world... (bad guess...)

**Oh and thanks again Sap for the info
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That's probably a direct quote from scripture: "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world" (John 1:29). Words originally spoken by St John the Baptist, patron saint of the Knights.
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