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Royal Mugshots; 1780-S Style.

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 Posted 09/15/2005  5:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ętheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's my new collecting area; The 1780s mugshot gallery. I currently only have two countries represented at present.



Joseph II (1765-1790) of Austria and the Holy Roman Empire. 1786-B Two Ducat piece

Royal-Mugshots;-1780-S-Style.


Joseph II was the son of Maria Theresa and ruled with her as joint monarch until her death in 1780. Joseph was greatly relieved to be able to finally make up his own mind on state matters with his mother no longer cramping his style. She was very much a dominating matriarch of conservative leaning whilst he was an enlightened liberal. Unfortunately Joseph whilst meaning well proved to be somewhat inept as a king. He failed militarily and politically. By his death in 1790 he'd lived long enough to watch all of his amendments and work as a king be overturned. He died knowing he was a failure.


Louis XVI (1774-1792) of France. 1788-MA Dixieme d'Ecu

Royal-Mugshots;-1780-S-Style.


In stark contrast to Joseph his brother-inlaw Louis XVI was the epitome of the Ancien Regime. The old school aristocracy, absolute an infallible. Or so people were inclined to be led to believe. Louis was not much interested in ruling but more in a life of leisure, he'd happily leave it to his officials to run the country. So perhaps Louis XVI wasn't as absolute as contemporaries might have thought. His brother the future Charles X was much more of the ultra-Royalist radical. Louis however like Joseph was inept. If Joseph was in for a major disappointment, Louis was in for alot more of a disappointment. By the 1780s they'd spent up (thanks to Marie Antoinette and some poor excuses for national budgeting by successive financial administraters ever since Louis XIV's reign) and the country was in debt. Unrest was brewing and in 1789 the French Revolution was triggered. Louis then tried a bothed compromise, it was a case of too little, too late. Whilst the very fabric of French society unravelled and the aristocracy unravelled with it, Louis and Marie managed to successfully hold on by pretending to go along with the revolution. Whilst doing this though they were begging the kings of Europe, notably Spain to come to their rescue by declaring war on France. Charles of Spain buried his head in the sand.

By 1792 the revolution had grown more and more radical as the Jacobins gained control. The king and Queen attempted to flee their captivity and escape to Varenne. Unfortunately for them their were caught, and their letters came to light. It was clear the king was untrustworthy and the radicals used it as a good escuse to finally cut lose the royal family. The monarchy was abolished and they were imprisoned. Louis was guillotined in January 1793 and Marie followed later that year.


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 Posted 09/15/2005  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for another snippet of history! I love the term "mug shots". They look like modern day Drivers Licenses! Style wise, many seem very similar from all over Europe at that time period. You Have quite a task ahead of you collecting all of them! Mike
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 Posted 09/16/2005  06:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ętheling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It really captures something of an essence of the whole period. The wigs, the fashions (and if the 18th century is known for one thing it's for the dress). But also the 1780s was in effect the last decade of the 18th century. The 1790s and the 180Xs were a transitional period where the old ways of doing things were eroded, and broken down. The French Revolution, the breaking up of the Holy Roman Empire, the US was looking forward to it's first decade without the British interfering. The Napoleonic Wars. When you look at 1809 and compare it to 1789 there's alot different.

Much like 1899 and 1919, how many countries had lost their monarchies, changed their titles and had to re-identify themselves, re-draw their boundaries. Russia being a notable example.

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