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 Posted 04/09/2015  11:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Manning19 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a few questions about auctions...I'm new to ancients and coin collecting in general, so I'm currently sticking with dealers and auctions and avoiding ebay.

I have been eyeing the CICF auction now for a few weeks, put on by Heritage. I also regularly check out numisbids for other auctions...

A few questions:

-What are some of the bigger, can't miss type auctions for ancients each year?

-How reliable and are the "estimate" that are listed with these auctions?

-Who are the big auction players?


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 Posted 04/09/2015  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recently won my first auction. Don't forget to factor in the buyer's fees and shipping. My shipping was $22. Checkout sixbid. The auction where I won was CNG, the estimates have little to do with the potential price of the coin, I think they are there to control the first bid.

If you log onto an auction site and just watch the bids, you will probably learn a lot.
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 Posted 04/09/2015  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sixbid, Heritage, Sachs, etc.. are all well known and high end auctions houses. These are excellent places to shop if you have deep pockets and don't mind paying buyers premiums. Keep in mind that when they estimate a coin they take into account there overhead costs so the estimates are going to be higher. I visit them from time to time but I can't afford most of there coins. I prefer sticking to Vcoins in a lot of cases you will find the same type of coin for sale at the auction houses there for a lot less money.
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 Posted 04/09/2015  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My recommendation, Manning19, would be to participate in a few of the regularly-scheduled, no-frills e-auctions - if you haven't done so already - before considering getting involved with the big auctions held by the large firms. Those big auctions are often held live, with bidders at the event and others at home, bidding in real time from their computers (it's a lot of fun, in my opinion - but I would recommend working your way up to it).

The e-auctions I'd recommend are Vauctions.com, Frank S. Robinson (http://www.fsrcoin.com/a.html ), Forum Ancient Coins (http://www.forumancientcoins.com/au...Cat.asp?ID=5 ...you'd have to become a member of Forum, if you're not already), Classical Numismatic Group (http://cngcoins.com/ ...the eAuctions column is on the right side of that page), and Agora Auctions (http://agoraauctions.com/ ).

All of these are well-organized and the dealers are reliable.

The auctions at Vauctions, CNG, and Agora run for a couple of weeks each. Robinson has about three auctions per year, I believe...with one going on now. Forum's auction is ongoing, with the time remaining on each lot listed with that lot's description.

Once you're a bit further along, I'd recommend registering at Sixbid.com, a great site that lists many of the major auctions in both hemispheres.

Good to hear you're already treading carefully where ebay is concerned...I wish all new collectors were that saavy.

Best wishes.
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 Posted 04/09/2015  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul27613 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Broad question. The reason I say broad is that there are a lot of ways to approach auctions. If you bid in an auction that is hyper publicized, super well attended, and the buyers are flush with cash..........and you win, I have little doubt that you will be paying absolute top dollar. And say 5 years from now you sell same coin, in a recession, at a smaller auction, not as broadly successful, you will take a beating. A big one.

Another big question is what type of material interests you? Auctions that have floor bidding really need to have some kind of minimum per lot to make the auction economically feasible. Very interesting Roman Provincial coins might not make that minimum, and yet that might be what interests you.

I also posit that different auction houses specialize in different material. You almost have to specify what types of ancient coins interest you, at what kind of price levels (2 figure, 3 figure, 4 figure, 5 figure) to get the right pointers.

Oh, don't forget the European auction houses. Great great stuff. A little more complexity because of payments but also a good vector.

Paul

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