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alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 09:02 am I can't find a Chinese coin to match this so I believe it to be a fantasy piece rather than a copy. 45 mm, 28.6 gr. Even rings like silver I do like the Trade dollar edge though. Report this Post to the Staff

Petrus Pillar of the Community Belgium 2895 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 4:21 pm Indeed fantasy peace Report this Post to the Staff
X2an Pillar of the Community Sweden 1078 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 4:41 pm It might still be silver though. Fantasy pieces can still contain precious metals. It looks silver, rings like it but the weight feels off. Is it a thin piece? Report this Post to the Staff
ChildOfTheWheat Pillar of the Community United States 5828 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 4:48 pm check for silver. Report this Post to the Staff
publius Pillar of the Community United States 807 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 5:27 pm 45 mm is huge. At that size even brass ought to be 30+ grams, if it's not unusually thin. Report this Post to the Staff
Athalbert Pillar of the Community Spain 629 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 6:33 pm Use a magnet... A lot of modern fantasies are made of steel with a silver wash, if this is the case, the magnet will atract it Report this Post to the Staff
alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 8:38 pm It's 2 mm thick, non magnetic, but it doesn't pass the tissue test. Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 8:53 pm In all of my years, I have never seen a Chinese coin design like this one, or reference in any book. From my experience this piece has to be a fantasy or a good luck charm. At a diameter of 45 mm and a weight of only 28.6 grams, unless it is reasonably thin, I would say it has a copper or copper alloy core, with a white metal plating. If it was silver, and with an assumed 2.5mm average thickness, it should weigh over 40 grams. It comes as no surprise to me that it has a clean 'ring' tone. Report this Post to the Staff
manymore Valued Member United States 347 Posts	Posted 04/15/2015 12:21 am It's not a coin, fantasy piece or charm. It's a medal. You can read about it in English here. However, the English description does not translate the inscriptions on the medal. Regarding the OP's left image, the inscription at the top is fuzhou, which is a city in Fujian Province. Written vertically in the middle is chuan zheng cheng gong which means "Shipyard success". The OP's right image has at the top da qing which means "Great Qing". Written vertically down the middle is yu ci jin pai which means "to bestow imperially gold medal". This Chinese article explains that several of these gold and silver medals have been obtained by the Chinese Shipyard Culture Museum. Please note that the Stack's Bowers silver medal has the inscription "to bestow imperially silver medal" while the OP's medal says "gold medal". Since the OP's medal is obviously not gold, it cannot be authentic. Gary Report this Post to the Staff
alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 04/15/2015 11:51 am Thank you Gary. Fascinating. Report this Post to the Staff
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