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After another USPS fiasco this specimen was shipped in mid March and took over 30 days to arrive DOMESTIC!!

After filing claims, aggravating a seller, getting annoyed with the USPS after declaring the item lost.

I am relieved that the specimen finally showed up. (I plan on making an offering to Hermes and Tyche respectively.)

This is an upgrade to a similar coin I sold. The type is like most other Alexander the Great types except it differs in several interesting ways.




From my previous write up on the coin type. (Price 1191 and 1193)

Scholars agree that the bust is that of Mithridates VI of Pontos. These were minted in Odessos, Thrace sometime between 120-70 BC this particular coin was minted around 83/2 BC to finance the 2nd Mithratic war with Rome. These coins are believed to have been meant as payment to Macedonian and Thracian mercenaries. The 2MW ended in the retention of the Pontic Kingdom and the expulsion of the Romans from the Province of Asia. Mithridates VI would ultimately be defeated by Pompey the Great, and would ask for his friend to kill him by sword in order to evade capture and the resulting humiliation of a Roman triumph, concluding the third Mithratic War. He could not kill himself by poison, since he had given himself small doses of poison his whole life to guard against possible assassination.
For me I could not live without a Greek tetradrachm of one of the last Hellenistic Kings and the most successful to stand up to Roman Imperialism. A very cool and unique uber later Alexander type style coin.

Kingdom of Thrace and Pontus
Thrace, Odessos
Mithradates VI Eupator (Megas)
AR Tetradrachm (s.BC 83/2)
30 mm x 15.70 grams
Obv. Head of Mithradates VI as Alexander III as Hercules wearing Lionskin headdress right.
Rev. Zeus enthroned holding a Scepter and holding an Eagle out stretched. Greek script- BASILEWS / ALEXANDPOY. LAKW in left field. WDH in ex.
Ref. Price 1193



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 Posted 04/23/2015  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I glad the coin finally arrive, it would have be a shame had it gotten lost forever. I saw an interesting show the other day how Mithradates (not sure if it was this one though) used Honey to defeat the Romans. The Romans thinking he had retreated from them, Mithradates left behind jug of Honey at which the Roman drank. The Honey cause them to become disorientated at which time Mithradates attacked and wiped them out. Excellent coin Nate.
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 Posted 04/23/2015  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orfew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, great coin. Thanks for the description too.
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 Posted 04/23/2015  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is the very same Mithradates as far as I know. Thanks guys.
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I don't know much in this area(I know nothing lol) but that coin is a stunner and an ultra cool piece in both numismatics and history. I sense a coin worthy of becoming your new avatar...
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 04/23/2015  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ancientnoob said: (I plan on making an offering to Hermes and Tyche respectively.)
Really itīs a good idea, buy you can sacrifice better a postman to dark evil gods, throwing his bleeding heart to a blowing fire in front of their post office mates...
...Probably you are not going to have any delay with your letters again.
(but itīs possible that you had some small, negliptible legal troubles too)
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 Posted 04/23/2015  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"I tell the tale as I heard told
Mithridates, he died old."

Mithridates as Alexander as Hercules as recursion.
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Great coin! However, let me intervene before Mithridates myths perpetuate. This man was no real challenge to the Romans as Hannibal was, indeed he could not even take Rhodes. He did do well massacring civilians and Cappadocian militia. He did lure one Roman, Murena and his auxiliary into an ambush. However when facing crack Roman legions he folded like a cheap suit and went down in defeat. Let's get real, mediocre Roman generals like Lucullus and Pompey cleaned this losers clock. Enjoy the coin, but I will stick with my Roman coins.
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 Posted 04/24/2015  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another piece of quality eye candy Noob
I only have the poor mans version ( bronze, unattributed ) maybe in the future I will get a shiny one.
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 Posted 04/24/2015  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for the wonderful compliments. A special thanks to Caesar for his defense of the Romans.
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i pitty the fool who doesn't like this coin.

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What's not to like ?

If my pockets were deep I would buy one !
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Very nice coin of an interesting historical figure. Always enjoyable to read the background to your coins. Publius beat me to the Housman, so I guess I'm off to look into the pewter pot.
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oh wow what a great coin! really nice anoob
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 Posted 04/25/2015  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He was a little angel...
He killed his sister (and wife) after she plotted against him, he killed his mother by famine, he killed his more able general to avoid a possible rival for throne, he killed several tens of thousands of roman and italics citoyens with their families and slaves (not so bad for a genocide in those times, I wonder what could had he done in Germany during WWII)...
And he loses all the campaigns against Roma except that ambush of Murena...

I think that if you look for "ancient loser" at wikipedia you can see his portrait...

but he struck very beautiful coins...
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Again, I am thrilled the Roman enthusiasts are having a field day with this. Mithradates defeat is probably one of the most epic failures in all of antiquity. It would be hard to trump Xerxes of Persia.
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