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Valued Member
Vietnam
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I am about to get this pc. I need your ideas about its authenticity. Sorry that I do not ask the seller about its weight and dimension yet.   |
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Valued Member
United States
246 Posts |
Nothing jumps out at me to say it isn't genuine. However that's not enough. A weight and measurements will also help when you have those. Also many others here will be much more proficient at Trade dollars than I am. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It can be a little difficult to have access to another Trade dollar to compare it with, that is known to be genuine. Perhaps a coin dealer may be able to help. Weight, measurements and a comparative ring tone test are simple cost effective ways to find if yours is genuine or not. A bullion dealer may be able to help with relatively cheap XRF testing. Looks OK, but I would like to visually compare it side by side with a known genuine example, looking for minor stylistic differences, as well as comparing edge milling, side by side. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5828 Posts |
It looks okay to me, and it's not a cast counterfiet. If it was, you'd see bubbles in the denticals and the letters. Like others have mentioned, weigh the coin, measure the coin, and then bring it to your LCS.
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Moderator
 United States
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Like others have mentioned, weigh the coin, measure the coin, and then bring it to your LCS. Probably easier said than done in Viet Nam.  Understanding that these scans are all we have to work from, I see no real cause for alarm based on them. It's the correct Type 2/Type 2 dies for 1878, and well-struck showing none of the weakness normally associated with a counterfeit. So, I am cautiously optimistic. |
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Valued Member
 Vietnam
61 Posts |
Thanks all for your ideas. Yes these pictures are all I have for verifying.
But I believe in your expertise, so the coin OK for me.
Ddave, you are right. There is no LCS at its exact meaning in my city of 1 million. Here coins are available only at miscellaneous antique shops. But there are not many foreign coins.
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Moderator
United States
23522 Posts |
Although you would expect large number of counterfeits in the Orient, also you should be unsurprised to find genuine ones there in quantity. They were minted for the purpose of being shipped there in the first place. I still hope you are able to verify weight and hopefully composition before purchasing.
I sense some slight circulation. If we consider the grade to be AU55, and stipulate that the surfaces are original (you, of course, can be the only judge of that), its' retail value should approach $US300.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3210 Posts |
I have had one or two Trade dollars before nothing looks wrong and screams a fake. |
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Valued Member
Vietnam
61 Posts |
I wish there were no Chinese made fakes out there. Or better, no China on this earth.
But maybe without such those fakes, our hobby will be less challenging, appealing, and generally, interesting?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8137 Posts |
It looks OK to me. I would only buy a graded one though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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ring tone test No!  Who would hit a coin that old? Don't do the ring test on coins, just bullion. |
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Moderator
United States
23522 Posts |
Forgive me for putting it this way, but I consider the "ring test" to be an offensive thing which says nothing complimentary about the tester. Especially since the best fakes are made of the same alloy, or very near, as the original. $10 in silver is a reasonable investment if you're going to get $250 from the buyer you take with it.
So you risk a dent when the information gleaned means essentially nothing.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
648 Posts |
Hmmm toes ,something along upper line of out stretched arm, point of star behind neck. could be just photo? PMD? |
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Valued Member
Vietnam
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6478 Posts |
The raised bumps may have been hits on a genuine coin that fake dies were made from.
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Valued Member
Vietnam
61 Posts |
By direct eyes I see them like poor quality material has caused them. They are raised dots so I do not think they are from hits (which should be indents?) of the other original.
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Posted 05/10/2015 07:33 am
