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Looking For Some Info On My First Ancient Coin

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 Posted 05/20/2015  05:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cspence to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Saw this at our local coin club auction last week and I had to have it, even though I don't really know much about ancients

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I believe it is a Titus Denarius?

What are some good reference materials for newbies to ancient coins?

Thanks for any help!
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 Posted 05/20/2015  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I would have wanted that too! However, I am having difficulty finding that particular coin. The obverse is usually T CAESAR VESPASIANVS, yours starts with IMP. I have some errands to run but will have a look later this afternoon.

Check out the sticky at the top of the page for good websites.
Wildwinds
acsearch
coinproject
vcoins

are all good places to go for research.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a sticky thread for this.

https://goccf.com/t/149883
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Unfortunately, there's an exact match for this type over on the FORVM fake coins database. Here's one entry; here's another the same. They are described as being from the "Lipanoff Studio" - a modern Bulgarian fake factory.

Sorry that your first foray into ancients happens to be a dud one.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sadly I would agree this is not an original coin.
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What scares the 'bejesus' out of me about these is the high degree of skill shown by the engraver. The easily noticeable unusual features (pointed chin, furrowed brow, oversized eyes and 'gel spiked' hair) could obviously have been depicted in a manner which would not seem so strange. It almost seems like the "artist" is taunting us with his talents. Perhaps it is an intentional ruse ?

I get the feeling that this guy/gal could make a die set that would be all but perfect in its style.
And perhaps he does !
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@cspence

Do not let this discourage you from collecting ancient coins. Yes there are plenty of fakes out there, but there are also lots of genuine coins. Even the experts get fooled sometimes. There are many excellent trustworthy sites to buy ancient coins, and lots of skilled people on this board to help. I am also new to ancient coins and have found this site to be very helpful. Sorry that your first ancient purchase what not what you hoped it would be.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed likely forgery. Sorry.

With ancients your best bet is to stick with reputable dealers or stick with the cheap stuff.

Few modern forgers are likely to try to fake a $30 Severan denarius (though they do exist) or a $20 Constantine bronze.

Once you start looking at commemorative issues, early emperors, and unusual denominations, the chance of running into a fake is so much higher.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cspence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shoot, well that's a learning experience.

Thanks for the info, I'll do some more research next time ;)

Sorry for not reading the stickys, too excited haha
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 Posted 05/21/2015  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't feel too bad about being fooled !
All of us have been fooled and will be fooled again.

What separates most of us from being genuine fools is figuring out we have been had !
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