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I know there have been other threads that address this topic, but I'm a bit confused by the many conflicting posts. The other day I came across the following statement in a listing for a 1963 proof coin set on ebay: "The Envelop is just like it came from the mint "opened", the Mint never sealed them! But a lot of people make that claim so they can raise the price." I was a bit surprised to read this statement as I possess a large number of silver proof sets which have been in my family since they were originally purchased from The Mint. I've had the pleasure of opening some of the sealed master cases and examining the contents myself. All the envelopes contained within the boxes (1957-1964) were most definitely sealed, which just makes me wonder why so many people feel so strongly that The Mint never sealed them. Whether unopened proof sets should command a premium is a different topic, but does anyone know whether The Mint has ever officially addressed the question of whether proof sets were shipped in sealed envelopes? |
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I don't know if the mint ever addressed it, but imo they did seal the proof sets, but not the mint sets. Yes you are right, there are other threads on this. I had a few conversations with one of the biggest seller of proof and mint sets on ebay. A lot of them have passed through his hands, and that is what he said. Also think about it. If they were sealed in the boxes until 1955, wouldn't it make sense to seal the flat packs that replaced them. The seller is neon65. Look at some of his listings, and he explains a lot about them. |
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 To CCF! Edweather is correct! |
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Can't reply to that question. I never looked. |
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All of the 1955-64 proof sets I have seen or owned if they were not sealed they were either torn or cut open at the top edge or on one end. That is proof, no pun intended, enough to me that these sets were mint sealed. The ones not torn or cut which had intact open flaps the adhesive dried out and had glue residue on the back of the envelope which could only be there if the flap was glued to it.
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I own some opened and sealed proof sets from 1955 to 1964. As Gyrene7463 said, when you buy proof sets that have been open they are cut open, usually on the top edge. A few of my sealed sets were actually obtained from the original owner. He just never opened them. He bought them and stored them.
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I've got a bunch of sealed 63 and 64 proof sets. I did a little experiment with one and steamed it open, checked out the coins and resealed it. Looks exactly as it did before opening it. So your sealed sets are just that...sealed. Doesn't mean they were never opened.  |
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lol, well if you have that kind of talent to open them without tearing any paper, then reseal them exactly the way they are without making the new glue/tape/seal visible I'd love to see it. I've never known anyone able to do it in a way that a glance over couldn't detect. On the other hand, if you can do it, I will gladly open my sets (I've always been curious anyway). Sealed sets seem to carry a premium and I've always liked to think they did for a reason.
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06/10/2015 5:00 pm
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lol, well if you have that kind of talent to open them without tearing any paper, then reseal them exactly the way they are without making the new glue/tape/seal visible ...Steam the set open, envelope flap kinda curls up because of the moist glue... ...check out your coins, not a prolonged event since I was just looking for cameo halves ...reseal using the same glue which remains quite sticky for a bit...no add'l glue or tape needed ...stealth mode intact...."sealed" Mint proof set |
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I used to open sealed sets that I would buy but stopped opening them because it seemed everyone I opened had one or more coins inside with unsightly dark spots. Now on the rare occasion I acquire an unsealed one I resell it unsealed.
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...stealth mode intact...."sealed" Mint proof set Why would you reseal your own proof sets?  |
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@ Foxwoods Man
Now you have me really thinking. I may have to buy another unopened 1964 set and experiment. I can usually get sealed sets for the same price as opened ones in the 64 :)
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Pulled out my sealed sets to glance them over today and much to my surprise I found I had a 1955 flat sealed proof set :) Almost bought one the other day when I saw it at the Antique Fest. I had thought I only had 1956 through 1964 sealed
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06/12/2015 03:16 am
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Why would you reseal your own proof sets? It would be called an "experiment" I had read about "sealed" sets not being original so I set out to see if it can be done....it can I did it to only one set....no animals were harmed in the production |
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I did it to only one set....no animals were harmed in the production  |
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My mom bought this "sealed" 1957 P Proof set in a police seized property auction as a gift for me. She said she was the winning bidder at about $120. I cringed because the book value of a 1957 set is... Well much lower. I never opened it, it seems un tampered and sealed with glue, the envelope in very good intact condition. Looking at the pics is it truly unopened? Also is it worth opening to look for cameo coins?   |
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