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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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So I went to the Toronto Coin Expo today and found 2 more additions for my Twelve Caesars collection. The first one is a "Vesta" of Caligula. It will fill a hole until I can find a Caligula denarius.   The second one is a very nice Vitellius RIC 36 sear #2191 Vitellius Denarius. Tarraco mint. A VITELLIVS IMP GERMAN, laureate bust left, globe at point, palm branch before / VICTORIA AVGVSTI, Victory advancing left with shield inscribed SPQR. RSC 101.   Thanks for looking. 
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Moderator
 United States
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That Vitellius is a super coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I am not familiar with this particular style of die cutting for Vitellius.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Hi chrsmat71,
At first I thought it was RIC 36 but the portrait is facing in the wrong direction. I was then leaning towards RIC 37 or 37 Var. Now, however, I am unsure. I do very much appreciate your input. Thanks for the assistance.
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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Could it be that vitellius is a fake? I see a seam right at the edge?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks very odd to me. I Don't like the smell of this one.
Like week old 'Bulgarian' Feta
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Valued Member
United States
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Lettering looks to sharp to be ancient. I know a few years back a lot of fakes were coming out of Canada. Coin expo dealers should have some type of guarantee on their coins being sold.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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@Dutchgulden
There is no seam on the coin, it is a trick of the lighting.
@Fvrivs
I have checked the fake coin reports on Forvm and have not found a match. This does not of course mean it is not a fake. However, I did have have the coin looked at by an expert I trust and he gave it the all clear.
Thanks to all for your input.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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I have taken another photo of the obverse, this time with a black background. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The areas of the eye (including arched brow) and mouth (Sly Stallone type lips) do look somewhat strange to me. I have avoided silver for many years and claim no expertise on the subject. That said I am still very leery of this one.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Valued Member
United States
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Second photo makes the coin look more authentic. Looks like he was in a good fight with a swollen eye and nose but a very nice coin
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Valued Member
United States
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I just don't like the look, legend seems sharper, seems embossed. I Don't trust it. ID the coin exactly, and pull more examples than the one from ACSearch. It just does not feel right. Here is one from CNG 
Edited by caesar77 05/30/2015 5:53 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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The seller has agreed to take the coin back and issue a refund. The coin is on its way back to the seller.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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orfew, I am sorry it turned out like this, but at least you will get a refund. The guys here are pretty good at spotting dodgy coins, there is a real Vitellius out there somewhere, with your name on it. You just have to find each other :)
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