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Constantius II Struck Under Vetranio

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I didn't know that Vetriano did that until I read it recently.

For a long time I was totally unimpressed by the Constantine family. Horsemen and soldiers with standards did nothing for me and I had hundreds of the darn things.

Recently I have gained an appreciation of some reverses that I previously found "boring". I have recently picked up a few Centenionales which show more detail on the reverse than I am used to seeing.

I saw this coin and the detail just blew me away. I got it for £8 which I thought very reasonable. A similar coin (better than mine) is on wildwinds and sold for over £170 in 2005. (So knock of £160 for the chunks missing out of my coin, I reckon I am still ahead.)

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RIC VIII 284
Constantius II (AD 337-361). Billon
centenionalis (4.7 gm 22mm). Struck by Vetranio,
AD350.
D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG,
bust right, wearing pearl diadem, between A and star
CONCORDIA MILITVM,
emperor standing left, holding two standards inscribed Chi-Rho,
star above his head, A in left field,
.ASIS. in exergue.
RIC 284, officina A (= 1).

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Nice coin. To this day I don't know how to tell which of these was struck by Constantius II and which was by Vetraino. Is there a sure fire way to tell?
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I have absolutely no idea. The information came from Wildwinds and it refers to RIC VIII. I have a copy, so will trawl through it and if I find an answer I will post. It might take a day or two.
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The style eventually returned to the standard imperial style after Vetranio stopped issuing them. There is a Vetranian issue for Constantius Gallus (who was elevated after Vetranio ceded) which was struck at a mint that Vetranio never controlled, if I remember correctly.
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Nice coin, Pish. Central strike, and good detail.
Haven't we all got a pile of coins startng with 'Constan . . . . . . '
Like you, I am sitting on mine and one day I will get the 'will' to go through them and hopefully (like you) the lights will come on and my interest will be 'sparked'.
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Nice coin. I really like the look of the portrait.
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A recent pickup, a Vetranio struck under Vetranio $40 brought this home with me.

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Here is a site on coins of Vetranio who issued six AE types, some of which were also issued in the names of Constantius II and Constantius Gallus.

http://esty.ancients.info/vetranio/Vetranio.html

The first page illustrates only coins in the name of Vetranio, but it links to a page with those types for the other rulers.

The ultimate resource is, of course, RIC VIII, which assigns coins to narrow time periods according to the precise mint marks.
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Thanks for the link Augustus1.
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