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Pillar of the Community
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I am having trouble 'attributing' this Probus coin. I believe it to be RIC V Siscia 670 but the Officina letter, in the right field, appears to be 'VI', Is this correct? I am used to 'P', 'B', or even Greek letters, but Roman numerals are new to me. Can anyone help here, please?  
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Valued Member
Netherlands
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With XXI in exergue and VI in the right field it is indeed Siscia.  |
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Thanks Eddop. I knew it was Siscia, but I am confused by the 'VI' in the right field as I am used to 'Officina' being alphabet letters or Greek characters, but not Roman numerals.
I wonder if someone can tell me the history/relevance of that, or even to give me the correct 'attribution for this coin? RIC V Siscia 670 has a 'P' in the right field and I cannot find a reference to the Roman numerals 'VI' on this coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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I - 1
II - 2
III - 3
IIII OR IV - 4
V - 5
VI - 6
VII - 7
VIII - 8
VIIII OR IX - 9
X - 10
XI - 11
XII - 12
XIII - 13
XIIII OR XIV - 14
XV - 15
XVI - 16
XVII - 17
XVIII - 18
XVIIII OR XIX - 19
XX - 20
XXI - 21
XXII - 22
XXIII - 23
XXIIII OR XXIV - 24
XXV - 25
XXVI - 26
XXVII - 27
XXVIII - 28
XXVIIII OR XXIX - 29
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank-you Athalbert. I do appreciate your assistance, however, I am sorry that I did not make myself clear. I apologise for the confusion.
I have seen Greek letters used as 'Officina'.
I have seen the alphabet used as 'Officina'.
I have never seen Roman Numerals used as 'Officina', but, because no-one else seems surprised by this I shall presume that it is commonplace (normal) and I shall look for an explanation elsewhere.
(I shall presume that my attribution of RIC V Siscia 670 is correct.)
Thank-you, everyone.
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Belgium
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you have XXIVI in exergue,it is :XXI and VI .
XXI : the coin you have is an aurelianus , it is an antoninianus after the coin reform of Aurelianus, he improved the silver quality of the antoninianus and placed the mark of value : XXI (KA on Greek coins)on the new coins .
VI = 6th officina , on latin coins the first to officinae are indicated by P(rima) = first and S(ecunda) = second and then most of time by numerals .
The inscription on the reverse is : CONSERVAT(ori) AUG(usti)and in the exergue the valuemark and the officinanumber.albert
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@ antwerpen - I did not know that you could add the numerals in the 'exergue' to the ones in the 'field' in that way. I have seen (in reference books) the XXIVI but when that did not 'mirror' what I had in the 'exergue' I discounted it and moved on. Thank-you for that 'gem', and the rest of the information. How do we tell an Aurelianus from an Antoninianus, please? We all have to start somewhere. Cheers.
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06/04/2015 5:39 pm
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Belgium
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Topcat ,I made a mistake , I checked only RIC and by number Siscia 670 :you have to possibilities : in exergue XXIVI or XXI and in the right field the number here VI For the antoniniani of Siscia you have 6 or seven officiniae , your undated coin if of the 6th.
In short for the silver coins in Rome , you have first the victoriatus before about 212 BC , this one is replaced by the denarius at that date , the weight of the denarius was +- stable till Nero , who changed the weight , and from the last quarter of the second century there was a permanent depreciation ,till about 212 AD when Caracalla created a new silver coin with the value of 2 denerii and the weight of 1,5 den.,coin we call the antoninianus after the name of the emperor because we don t know the roman name .As you understand ,the new coin was not a succes and we have to wait till GordianusIII to see a general use of the anton. and the disappearing of the den.With the troubles of the third quarter of the third century , all the silver vanished and the anton. was a simple AE coin.About 270 AD Aurelianus reformed the monetary system and created a new silvered anton,indicated by the number XXI,this coin is like the other named by us after the emperor.This system stayed in use for 25/30 years when Diocletianus made a new reform. We don t know the exact meaning of XXI : they suppose it indicates 20 parts of AE and one of silver , but there are many explications.Albert
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