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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The Iranian gold for oil scheme actually was working extremely well for them, the reason why if failed had nothing to do with gresham's law or any market related issues. The practiced was put a stop to by Western pressure on turkey to tighten sanctions, as Iran was getting a decent sum of money from the scheme.
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Pillar of the Community
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If it's only worth $139, then I wonder what the composition is made of up? Can't be pure gold since it seems to be a decent size coin..
Anyone know what the translation for the front is?
Lastly, I find it interesting that they include a map of the world, I would think they would omit places like the USA on their own coinage.
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Valued Member
United States
64 Posts |
Look, if you buy American Silver Eagles you can't criticize anyone for buying an Islamic State coin. It's that simple. Talking about blood on a coin lets measure the blood on our own money first.
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Pillar of the Community
Sweden
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Quote: Look, if you buy American Silver Eagles you can't criticize anyone for buying an Islamic State coin. It's that simple. Talking about blood on a coin lets measure the blood on our own money first. Although true, I find it a little extreme to compare ISIS with the US. ISIS focuses on terror activities and oppression, the US doesn't (publicly) and instead tries to focus on being a safe nation. Besides, if that's your point then basically paying taxes is financing violence and terrorist activities. Just to put into perspective.
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Canada
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CSTOS, the value was in British Pounds not US or Canadian dollar (139 BBP = roughly $218 USD) Note the size/ weight of the coin was not mentioned, it might be something like a 1/4 ounce or 1/5th oz or smaller.
I would imagine they would not be using .999 gold, but some comp of copper/gold
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Canada
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remember people that this all has happened before, it was called the Ottoman Empire, and it was around for a few hundred years.
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 Australia
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Quote: If it's only worth $139, then I wonder what the composition is made of up? Can't be pure gold since it seems to be a decent size coin. The fineness mark can be seen on the language only side: 21 karat. Quote: Anyone know what the translation for the front is? It says the full name of the "country" at top and bottom, the denomination "five dinars" across the middle with the fineness above (21 karat) and weight below (27.25 grams). Quote: Lastly, I find it interesting that they include a map of the world, I would think they would omit places like the USA on their own coinage. You do realise their goal literally is world domination, right? A one-world-government caliphate?
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
United Kingdom
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If these coins do find their way on ebay or other sites, how much people would be prepared to pay for them?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1295 Posts |
No one should pay a cent until the the reign of the Islamic State has been destroyed, whenever that may be. Otherwise, how do you know your money isn't going to go towards funding more acts of terror? If I see any of these coins come up on ebay, I'm reporting them immediately, as should everyone else.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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ISIS coins in real life on a keyboard (PS - This pic is from a website of a civilian who is living in Raqqa. I don't know if this is his own picture or somebody else. Not sure what the Arabic words say on the paper) 
Edited by Deepak 08/30/2015 10:24 am
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Valued Member
United States
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The first words (on the paper on the keyboard) are "Abu Turab"... The last word may be "Al-Mosuli" (the handwriting on the last word is tough to make out). It would simply be a name of a person, possibly the individual who uploaded the picture. The "Abu" names are Kunyas, or simply nicknames as the loosest equivalent, although with the rise of extremist Islamic elements, the use of Kunyas are more closely used as a "nom de guerre" or war name. If the last word reads as Al-Mosuli, it is likely a reference that this individual is from Mosul, Iraq or at least has a strong connection to that city (such as possibly being involved in the takeover of that city, etc).
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Thanks for the translation, it probably is taken by an IS fighter calling himself Abu Turab Al-Mosuli. My impression is that these IS coins have been given to fighters as samples, as the general population don't seem to have these coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have to say I agree with the above sentiments; any self-respecting numismatist should refrain from purchasing any ISIL coins until said "state" is a footnote in the history books. The difference between collecting these and other "blood money" is that making the purchase has real-world consequences. Spending $200 on one of these coins can help give them sufficient funds to sack another city or bulldoze another museum full of priceless artifacts. Spending money on Third Reich or colonial Spanish coins won't send a child to Auschwitz or Potosi.
Still, I would much rather patronize less harmful eccentric "states" like Sealand or Molossia.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Once ISIS has disappeared from power in Syria and Iraq, how much would people be prepared to pay for the coins?
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