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1957 Idk Clash?

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I was thinking clash but it can't be there is nothing to create it soooooo ? down at the bottom of obverse



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 Posted 06/24/2015  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I think it's very plausible it's just a rim ding.
Let's see what others think.
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My thought is,die gouges.On the reverse looks like a Greaser.
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These look to be raised above the field. A clash would normally be an incuse feature. I agree with the die gouges.
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I do as well (die gouges). If it were a die clash it would be a tilted die clash and would have part of E PLURIBUS UNUM seen below Lincoln's bust.
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A clash would normally be an incuse feature
Incuse on the die, relief on the coin. I thought it was a slip of the tongue on Jad's thread. So hope this helps, Stoneman. Return the favor sometime.
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It's a special treat when I find a memorial reverse cent clash that has the ty of liberty showing as a clash on the reverse. These clashed letters are incuse on the coin. When the obverse die contacts the reverse die it is basically stamping it as if it were a coin. The resulting clash mark that is left on the reverse die thus mimics the face of a coin and is in relief. The subsequent coins struck with this die and it's ty in relief give us our incuse clashed ty's
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I can see how clashes can be incuse sometimes but the majority have to be reliefs.
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1957-Idk-Clash?
This is in relief.
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This is a bit confusing. I read your link, but the way it's worded makes it ambiguous.
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You make a good point. Just from observations on my coins I have seen that a strong clash like your coin exibits shows a "raised" area where the opposing die's features were level with the field. The reverse of my dime shows this. I am certainly no expert to give the exact cause of this, possibly if Mr. Neff stops back in he can enlighten me as to the cause.

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Yeah, that's it. Reliefs show up recessed and recesses show up in relief. So we are both wrong and right. lol
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The devices on a coin are often the things that are recognized as features that are transferred when a clash occurs. The field areas of a die would of course makean incuse mark in the opposing die and thus strike the coin in relief. Its the raised devices on a coin that become incuse with a clash.
Should have said this last night but even 1+1 didn't add up
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Not a clash, but thats a nice BU Wheat cent.
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 Posted 06/25/2015  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ditto, Stoneman.
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