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Did your eyes go  type? It's crazy huh. I put my 2 blue ones in the $300+ range and the golden rim at $100+/-. They're goin to pcgs on the next go around whenever I get around to it but mostly just to retard the color progression although I'd like to see the grades they get too  |
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Cascade your coin do look good I never seen or attention to coins that close to see any tone coin but now I will,lol many probably been though my hands. Quote:
Definatly not gone! Once they start looking like this they can sell for 5-15+ times more than a blast white... Quote:
How do you store your album? BadThad I have a nice chest made out of cedar wood that I keep all my coins in now I think I'm going to buy me a safe since I'm going to be buying more coins that might cost more then the ones I have. |
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Give yours a few more years and they be even better. The blue solo one was in an album for 10+ yrs
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I still don't understand why folks find toning to be such an enhancer when it can be done quite nicely in a couple of years time with no harsh chemicals or heating of any kind. Take a piece of paper, a thicker type with no coating is best. Simply pen around the coin to make a circle, "paint" a solution of sulfur 1:40 H2O around the edge of that circle. Place in a window. Put a clear plastic cover over the coin that doesn't touch the coin and doesn't block the sun. Wait a year or so, flip it over. Wait another year or so. WHALLAAA - Bulls eye tone, dark blue at peripheries fading to red, then gold at center. And, no - TPG's are not going to catch it because it is the same basic way that all coins tone that are in the old albums that had a little sulfur in the paper. Or - if you are really lazy. Just buy a couple of torn to shreds 1930's pulp magazines which are HIGH in sulfur content - stick a coin in the pages - wait a couple years. WHALLAAA - Toning that looks (and really is) natural, but Lord knows what it will look like. ...and no, I've never created, owned, or sold one myself. But the coin dealer who taught me coins at his shop did it all the time. |
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Mox, the technical problem with that method is the color is highly unstable and will fade to an ugly black in a matter of years even in a slab. With natural toning the colors are developed over time making them very stable to the point where modern slabs can all but arrest the progression.
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Most of my american eagle been in that folder 15 year when I started in 01.Didn't no anything about toning lol.my fingerprint not on those coins the deal place them,he was helping me fill my folder at the time.i took it with me when I went there to buy them.
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Danscos are very "pure" of high archival quality for the purists. That is the materials used and the cardboard lack enough sulfur and other compounds to tone coins usually but there is the environmental factors too which I'm thinking is what happens to yours, a high sulfer environment.
My solo pic eagle was in a littelton album with high levels of the eight compounds to give them amazing colors as well as the 2 in the cheap cardboard inserts... take a look at my avatar link below this. It too had a cardboard insert that did wild things to it.
If your album was a littelton binder they would be spectacular by now
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I absolutely agree with you Cascade. That form of "tone enhancement" was not done for extended periods of time as they did tend to darken very quickly. The old boss always put them out so the "advanced collectors" would have something to buy for the bigger bucks. Deceptive, I will most certainly admit. But the reason I stated my astonishment was not only because of that deceptive practice, which I'm sure has NOT taken place here with these American Eagles, but because of the continued "advancements" in toning deception. Just look for "bullseye" or "rainbow" on ebay and what you will find is a very small number of sellers who have nothing but an amazingly large stock of newer silver pieces with that rainbow tone. And they get major bucks, many times over a similar grade coin, for those "amazing rainbows". You also don't see those sellers with anything that is TPG because the TPG's would spot those kind of enhancements in a heartbeat. So I am certainly NOT saying that collecting toned coins is to be avoided. Some of my most loved coins have what I consider to be a beautiful tone. But I do think that when you see sellers of newer (silver especially) coins that have DOZENS of Kennedy halves, Ike dollars, American Eagles, and Franklin halves and ALL of them have some (sometimes just plain weird looking) colors on everything they sell, a warning should be given. That's not to say those series can't exist with beautiful "natural" tone, only that finding single sellers with nothing BUT those issues rings a bell of caution in my mind. |
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Hey guys like to ask a question the coins that I purchase from US Mint will they tone if so,it's the environment that I have them storage at or in.where do I need to put them or move them to a better place.thanks
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@reno, If you dont want them to tone seal them in a ziplock with a desiccant pack and a sacraficial penny. @mox, I get whay your saying, with moderns the idea is to assume fake until otherwise proven or witnessed. What I scratch my head at is there's one on ebay sold search that went for around $550 I believe and it was slabbed high ms by ngc I think and it was a 2011  ... I wanna know how that happened for sure  |
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Cascade thanks I been going though the site reading and viewing the picture I seen coins that been graded and still toning it look hard to stop it for happening.I purchase Commemorative Coins from the US Mint for instance my March of Dimes 2015 Proof,U.S. Marshals Service 225th Anniversary I have more those I don't want to tone so I will do what you told me to do.I hope that stop it.
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Reno, yes it is impossible to fully stop. The best we can do slow it down if a coins surface is prone to it. I REALLY like toning personalLY and would never try to hault it so I haven't used the sacrificial penny method but BadThad who is a chemist recommends that method. Now for some fun, check this site out... http://100greatestrainbows.com/index.htmlEdited by Cascade
07/08/2015 09:08 am
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BadThad I have a nice chest made out of cedar wood that I keep all my coins in now I think I'm going to buy me a safe since I'm going to be buying more coins that might cost more then the ones I have. Therein lies your problem. Wood is known for out-gassing and it will affect your coins. If you don't want your coins to tone, put your album into a ziplock with a harshly cleaned sacraficial coin of similar composition (to absorb any gasses that make it into the ziplock. Put the ziplock album into ANOTHER ziplock with a desiccant pack and put the whole thing into a tupperware-type container. This will slow the toning to a crawl nearly stopping it. |
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I kept this proof nickel in a whitman 20th century type set. It now resides in my 7070.  |
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Can't tell from your photos but do you have plastic slides over the coins? This does appear to be an Album, not a Folder and should have plastic slides over the coins. Regardless, moisture and air will usually get to coins if in an Album or Folder depending on where you keep them stored. Best thing I've found is to place them in a Zip Lock Plastic bag. For coins I really want to protect, I use one Zip Lock bag and then reverse the opening and place in a second one. Pushing out as much air as possible each time. I never have any problem with toning on my coins since doing this.
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