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Victoria 1882 Shilling

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 Posted 01/05/2008  05:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
these pic's are of a coin I have but the coin isn't in very good condition the thing that I think is unusual is that the obverse of Victoria is upside down is this common to these coins.also the funny date doesn't have any scratches or abrasions so I don't know how it turned out like that.

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 Posted 01/05/2008  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some of your URLs are missing...

But it looks like they downloaded OK. Click on "Reply to Topic", up the top just below your username, then click on the little camera-shaped "Add Image" button below the reply screen. On the popup that pops up, click on the "My previously uploaded files" button. Find the pic you're after from the list of them that pop up, and then click "insert".
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...the thing that I think is unusual is that the obverse of Victoria is upside down...

By "upside down", I assume you mean that when you turn the coin over the same way that you turn an Australian, New Zealand or modern British coin over, the portrait is upside down.

Assuming the coin dates from 1887 or earleir, then that's perfectly normal - the coin was made like that. Britain changed their silver coins from "upside down" (known as coin orientation) to "right way up" (called medal orientation) in 1887. Coins in some countries (such as the United States) are similarly "upside down". Find yourself an American coin, and see for yourself.

They're used to seeing coins like that, and when they see one of our coins, they think ours are "upside down", too!
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Sap wrong name I think gem is a better name for you.
I spent ages trying to work out how to get the pic's to
come up after taking 15 pictures with the camera Victoria was about to have her first flight in Australia.thanks for the info and help.
PS the book I have doesn't tell which way is up.
still learning probably need lots of help along the way.
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 Posted 01/05/2008  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That pattern of wear, with the central part worn away, is fairly typical of well-worn Victorian coinage. I've got several British coins of the period with nothing left in the middle like that. Other coinages show the same thing; check out token #1 in this thread. The central area's supposed to show the date "1816" and some scrollwork, but all that's left in the middle is a trace of the "8", while the surrounding text is still perfectly readable.

As for the funky-shaped date, I'd assume it's just taken a couple of "knocks". There's nothing listed in Spink about a variety with different-shaped numerals.
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...the book I have doesn't tell which way is up...

Alas, that's a problem with Krause (and many other catalogues). Fortunately, the British catalogues like Spink normally do indicate the die axis. The standard symbolism, in books that do indicate the "normal" die axis for a particular series, is two arrows up ^^ for medal orientation (like Australian coins) and arrows pointing opposite directions ^v for coin orientation (like American coins).
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