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1911-D $5 Gold In NNC Slab - Real Or Fake

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Indian gold is hard enough for me as it is, but these pictures have some of the weirdest lighting I've ever seen. I'm gonna have to leave it up to all you experts out there.

Is it: Real or Fake?

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23 people believe that the coin is real, but if it were me, I would run like a scared rabbit. PCGS, MS63 is a good 40K coin, which this coin is not, buyer beware.
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No way to tell what this one is from these photos/scans.
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Pics aren't sufficient.
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A seller who made his ebay bona fides from selling overpriced rolls of "unsearched" cull/cleaned/damaged common-date Wheat cents with occasional salted problem key-date coins...what could possibly go wrong there?

A quick Google should give you more than enough information needed to answer your question. I love the current "NNC" PR-69CAM replica/copy Gobrecht coins for $36 each.

It might also be worthwhile to note that they strongly discourage the use of Paypal. Wonder why?

Oh. One more thing. This particular seller, we'll call him "Bob", is also the president of NNC. No bias there, right?




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I've seen some of the posts about "Bob" and NNC, so I was already in alert mode. But I had also seen posts where "Bob" was apparently cracking TPG slabs and re-slabbing them in NNC holders. Didn't know if this was one of those, or just a clone. I could not tell from the pics.

Too big of a risk for me, but when I came across it I thought I'd post it here.

BTW, thanks to site administration on the ebay link thingy - I'll remember that!

NOTE: Edited for discretion... thanks, paralyse
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08/01/2015 9:51 pm
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I prefer not to call out individual sellers directly by their full name or ebay userid for liability reasons, although I will indirectly refer to them as needed.

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I wonder if a slabbed problem coin of this genre has been sold recently
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I do not trust NNC, so I'd stay away from that as far as possible.
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I am no expert, but something strikes me wrong about the mintmark, although it could just be the lightning. I would stay away.
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probably real, but hard to tell
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Learn to grade like a certain notorious unnamed ebay of ill repute.

You need


4 dice (you can steal them from leftover board games that nobody plays)
A glue gun
A 4 function calculator from the dollar store

Take one die and find the FIVE pips.
Glue it to the table

Take the second die and find the SIX pips.
Glue it to the table next to an right of the FIVE.

Gives you the starting value of 56


Now for each coin you grade

/1/ Wave it over the dice
/2/ Speak the magic words "Oh, Baby, am I gonna make MONEY from YOU"
/3/ Roll the two dice that aren't glued to the table
/4/ Arrange the two dice below the SIX
/5/ Using the calculator, add the three number, say you roll a 5 and a 2: 55 + 5 + 2 = MS62
/6/ Mark this value on slab

Repeat for each coin
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Run away.
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