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Valued Member
United States
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Something looks funny, around the edges, the tips of the stars seem drawn out. Also on the reverse around the edges. How does it look to you?  Edited by andym
08/07/2015 1:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's called a VLDS, or very late die state.
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Valued Member
 United States
51 Posts |
So it looks normal? It's just that the die was wearing out, hmmm. It appears to be AU to me, what condition does it look to you?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Could we get straight on pictures please?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Large Cents were struck in an open collar press so their diameter was slightly variable. Open collar strikes create more die erosion than strikes with a closed collar simply because the planchet metal expands more than if it were contained by a collar. The flow lines emanating from the stars and other peripheral devices can be used as an indicator of a genuine coin since the vast majority of modern counterfeits are struck in a collared press and cannot develop that type of die erosion.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes, beter pics would help - as it is, the obverse looks possibly cleaned.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks biokemist6 for the detailed analysis. I will get a better obverse photo but on the run today.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's normal. However, it looks like it was cleaned and recolored. Shame, because otherwise it's a really nice coin.
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Valued Member
United States
51 Posts |
It does look cleaned? Colored? I never heard of colored before. Like a dye?  Edited by andym
08/07/2015 7:46 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7375 Posts |
Something like Deller's darkener is used. You still have a nice coin there in the EF range.
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Valued Member
United States
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Yeah, the straight-on photo is better. While the angled view of the obverse showed off the flow lines, it made the hair look "cartoonish," resembling some of the counterfeits I've seen. But the cleaning and recoloration combined with the weird angle and light seems to have caused that look. I think this one is probably OK.
Yes, those kinds of flow lines will not happen with modern struck counterfeits ... unless the counterfeit dies were made from a coin that had them. Still have to be cautious, but chances are they're not going to make a counterfeit from a coin with such die wear showing on it.
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Valued Member
United States
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Ok, I guess the consensus here is that it is NOT a fake, it's around an XF grade, however it HAS been cleaned and colored? I've never heard of coloring & darkening, but learned alot within this post... https://goccf.com/t/95212 |
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