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Need Some Help Identifying This Rock/Metal

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 Posted 08/11/2015  01:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 4ddrft to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys I found this about a year ago while detecting.
It hard a hard layer of brownish stuff on which I could barely scrap off, but I managed to snap it in half.

It was flakey and very bright and shiney silver.

It wasnt very big before I snapped it maybe the size of a 5c piece and also quite thin around 3-5mm

I did find another piece aswell which was more rounded about the size of a pea.

Any help would be much appreciated thanks

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 Posted 08/11/2015  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mraderm946 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depends on where you found it, but it looks like it could be Galena to me. If it is, as you say - flakey, it could be Mica.. Hard to tell from the pictures.

Mark
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08/11/2015 04:12 am
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 Posted 08/11/2015  04:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4ddrft to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can mica and galena be picked up with a metal detector? It was a good signal
Was found around Creswick in Victoria, Australia
The last picture is a view from the top and the cracks are where it was flaking when I broke it
Any ideas how I would find out what it actually is?

Thanks, Steve
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 Posted 08/11/2015  04:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mraderm946 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think any university or school with a Geology Dept could tell you for sure. Access to either of those? Also, I believe that galena has lead qualities so a detector would likely react.

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 Posted 08/11/2015  05:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4ddrft to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ill probably haave to take it to someone to find out, thanks for you help :)
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 Posted 08/11/2015  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first guess would be a geode.
BUT
I have no idea if/how a detector would pick it up.
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 Posted 08/11/2015  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to say from these pics. You have to start by finding out some of the properties.
Hardness (Mohs Scale - talc is 1, diamond is 10)
Specific gravity (Galena would be a high SG 7.6 g/cm3)
Crystal structure
Luster - metalic
Magnetism - galena is non magnetic
Are there any lead mines in the area?

Check out the picture in this page it looks alot like yours (plumbojarosite and galena)

http://webmineral.com/specimens/pic....VcnqO_lViko

Geodes are usually round orbs with crystal structures in the interior like quartz and amethyst.

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The first thing you should do is a streak test. scrape the shiny part of the mineral on some unglazed ceramic tile. The easiest place to find this may be the bottom of a coffee mug on the outer edge. The streak test will be a particular color. If the streak is reddish-brown, then you probably have hematite, which is iron oxide, or Fe2O3. Hematite sometimes does occur in very nice silver colored crystals, like you have, that are brittle and can be broken. If the streak is grey, it is likely galena, which is lead sulfide, or PbS. If it is galena, it will feel unnaturally heavy. There are many other mineral possibilities, but from what I can tell from the photos, those are the two best options among common minerals.
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 Posted 08/12/2015  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SheltieGuy1966 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What sort of settings were you running on your detector when you found it? Did you have anything notched out?
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08/12/2015 11:06 am
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Great advice on the streak test.
Sometimes hematite is in a very lustrous form called specularite, or specular hematite.
It has a metallic luster and red streak, specific gravity around 5.26, fairly heavy, mostly iron.

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