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Trihemiobol From Moesia, Istros.

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I've taken quite a long hiatus from collecting for a while, because I've been busy with a lot of things going on, but I'm finally getting back to my beloved pieces of ancient history!

Pretty happy with this Trihemiobol from Moesia, Istros, that I just picked up from Gitbud and Naumann on Vcoins. I've always loved this design, and I liked the stylization of it and thought the price was pretty good so I went for it, it has arrived and I am quite happy about it I'm also glad to be coming back to the community here (hopefully in full swing!) Happy hunting to you all!




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 Posted 08/28/2015  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
back to collecting.

It's nice getting back into it with a nice purchase. Very nice coin with excellent detail.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The centering on that reverse is outstanding. Nice catch!


Added: Would you be willing to give us the size and weight stats on this one?
I am trying to get a fix on how to distinguish the trihemiobol and the diobol when the weight ranges seem to overlap so much.
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Nice coin, it actually jumped out at me on the site but I already have one of these that I picked up at the London coin fair a couple of years back. I think your one is better for a similar price than I paid for mine.

One thing to note though is which way up the heads appear. You would think with one up and one down that's the end of the story but even spinning the coin around the head on the left is either right way up, or not. (same is true for the right head) In the case of my coin they are the other way up (left head is always upside down)

I am not sure if either type is more desirable or if there is any relevance to this - just an observation I noted when looking at the type.

Because I bought mine from a show I don't have such a nice photo of this one... but to show you what I mean about the heads...



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Anyway, congrats on coming back - once a collector always a collector (even if you go into remission for a bit) - and a good coin to come back on
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With reference to the last post about weights perhaps this is useful...

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Good catch on the orientation! I'm really glad you told me or else I might never have known! Now that I think about it it might actually be oriented the other way and I might have just took the picture wrong, is there a definitive way to tell if it should be oriented with the left or right head down?
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is there a definitive way to tell if it should be oriented with the left or right head down?


I think it is all done relative to the orientation of the reverse (axis). If most coins of Istros are oriented at 12 o-clock, then this should be too. If 6 o-clock, then the same thing. But if they are inconsistent, then there is no clear up or down orientation for the obverse. That said, the treatment of the hair seems to be distinctive for each of the figures. So there is a "right" and "left" in the die, and you just need to get the axis down.


Also: thanks for the chart on the weights. Did the surrounding text say anything about the range of variance on those average weights? I see people offering diobols that weigh less than someone elses trihemiobol, which makes positively no sense unless they varied by that much. But then, who would know except the celator? It seems that unless module is significantly different, there needs to be a minimum weight for the diobol, etc.
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Very nice adddition, its in a great condition compared to others I have seen of this type!
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Mine weighed in at 1.61 grams, I will check the diameter when I can find a ruler.
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excellent coin to get back into ancients! the design on these is awesome...the type is on my hit list for sure.

if you can't find your ruler, you can print one off (i had to do this the other day!).

http://www.vendian.org/mncharity/di...aper_rulers/
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Thanks for the ruler resource! I measured mine, so the coin is about 10mm across, and weighs about 1.6 grams.
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 Posted 08/29/2015  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on that weight it is heavy enough to be a diobol. It is heavier than a trihemiobol by more than a hemiobol.
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the name indicates the weight :
1 drachme = 6x1 obol = 1,5x1 tetrobolon (tessares=four) =2x2 triobolon (treis = three) = 3x2 diobilon (duo=two).
i obol = 2 x 1 hemiobol
1 trihemiobol = 3x1 hemiobol = 1,5 obol.
the same for the ---drachm : di = 2 , tetra = 4 ,deca = 10 .
all the weights in grams are approximative .albert
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