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Chinese 70th Anniversary Victory Bills

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 Posted 09/09/2015  12:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JESP to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just happened to be browsing today, thinking about maybe some new acquisitions when I caught sight of something interesting.

These Chinese bills look interesting, and it would also be interesting if they really did coincide so closely with the recent large celebrations on victory over Japan in WW2 which China has held.

I can't find much info on them, none really. The seller replied quickly though about my questions for combined shipping, and about the bills themselves and replied with pics too.

It seems like a cool series with the scenes of the recent patriotic events, but the parade some of the images seem to come from just happened a week ago! I can't help but be suspicious, but is it possible this could be a legit issue?

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 Posted 09/09/2015  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rafa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice
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 Posted 09/09/2015  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, Jesp - You intrigued me with the pics so I took a look at some of the listings. Did you see this one? The alternate picture is lighted with a black light. It's spectacular!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-Picec-of-...em3f53437c00

Let me know what you think. Jack
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 Posted 09/09/2015  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JESP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for bringing that to my attention Jack. WOW!

I honestly don't know much at all about Chinese bills, but these look great.
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 Posted 09/09/2015  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CopperCastle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That note in the blacklight is a jaw dropper. Wow.
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 Posted 09/09/2015  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are they real?

None of them say Zhong Guo Ren Min Ying Hang, or China people's bank on them. I'd have thought this would be essential if they were legitimate issues from the government.
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 Posted 09/09/2015  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JESP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That definitely seems like a pretty important piece of information that you'd want on there if it was real.

They are cool bills, but if I buy them it'll be as a novelty without the added value of being official. I'm still going to think on it, whether its worth it.
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 Posted 09/09/2015  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did a few online searches and only found where the PRC is releasing an updated 100 yuan note with new anti-counterfeiting devices in August, but one that looks like the previous design featuring Mao Zedong.

Likewise, all these notes are denominated as 100 RMB, which seems odd to have for commemorative notes.

My suspicion is that they are fantasy bank notes capitalizing on the recent celebrations. Neat, but not official.
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 Posted 09/09/2015  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a member of CCF called wonghenghi who was able to give me a great deal of information about counterfeit Chinese Coinage. If he notices this post, he'll be able to help with the mystery. Jack
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 Posted 09/09/2015  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now, in addition to JIM we should check for VIC money?

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 Posted 09/09/2015  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JESP - I wrote to the seller of these Chinese notes. Here is the reply:

"Thank you for asking. Those are just celebration note to memories the victory of anti Japanese war."

Mystery SOLVED. Jack
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I doubt that these are real issues. When commemorative notes are issued in HK or Macau there is always an official announcement.

Also note the number of lucky 8s in the serial number.
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 Posted 09/09/2015  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ShareBear - That was a very illuminating bit of information. Although the original question posed by the OP has bee resolved, your point about the "Lucky Number 8", really opened my eyes. As I look through many of the Chinese notes I have noticed exactly what you point out. My question is: Can I use the presence of these "Lucky Number 8s" on Chinese notes as a red flag to identify possible fantasy/non-authentic Chinese notes? Jack
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I like these fantasy notes! However, it is quite worrying that they seem to contain numerous high-quality security features, such as colour-shifting ink, foil ribbons, and holographic decals.
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 Posted 09/17/2015  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A note with 888888888 or something similar will attract a massive premium. So much so that I think the Bank of England actually sells them directly to the Chinese for a massive mark up.

It's basically the sign of a rich person who probably did get very lucky and got rich because competition wasn't strong enough for Chinese growth and now he lives the good life without having much in the way of actual talent to get him there.
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