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SilverStackerKid Pillar of the Community United States 6478 Posts	Posted 09/10/2015 11:27 pm In order not to high jack I different thread, I am starting this one. I want to see peoples views on what makes a coin a variety, versus an error. The fallowing are my views. Error: Coins, planchets or blanks mint errors are created during the creation of the alloy stock and all the way through the striking of the coin, but are caused by faulty machinery or a mint employees mistake, and all are actually unique. "Accident" and "unique" are the key words here since only errors occur by accidental machine or human error issues and typically no two are exactly alike, some are similar but never alike. Variety: A variety is any alteration to a die's design wether on purpose, planned or unintentional by mint employees, and authorized or not. A doubled die is unintentional and could even be considered a mistake or error but the fact is a doubled die is not unique and some of those exist in the thousands. Each doubled die variety is like the other except when it comes to die stages and states and that's caused by die fatigue and wear and is a common denominator for all of a dies life. So, what are your views? Report this Post to the Staff

Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 09/10/2015 11:32 pm My vote is that there are errors, there are varieties, then there are Error-ieties Report this Post to the Staff
mcanniz Valued Member United States 486 Posts	Posted 09/10/2015 11:42 pm I agree with you SSK. I feel like doubled dies, and other so called errors fit into the same category as WAMs and CAMs, which people accept as varieties. I feel like if it is a problem with the die that will strike multiple coins the same way, it is not an error, but a variety. What I just said is me getting technical with what I think, but if something is accepted as an error, I call it an error (although I sometimes think differently) Report this Post to the Staff
tweak800 Pillar of the Community United States 1249 Posts	Posted 09/11/2015 01:14 am It's a tuff call because DDO / DDR do have many of them but they are also machinery or employee mistakes that made them. I would define variety as a different design. Even if they used by mistake the wrong die, let's say a proof reverse on business strike coin, it is an error on some level but it also is a design change. They are using a completely different design. But I can think about it so many ways and to be honest I'm going to say for the most part I agree with you and for the ones that don't fit in my way of thinking, thanks to cascade, I'm now calling them error-ieties Report this Post to the Staff
SilverStackerKid Pillar of the Community United States 6478 Posts	Posted 09/11/2015 01:21 am That's a great term. Hahaha Report this Post to the Staff
Broken-Coin Pillar of the Community United States 1812 Posts	Posted 09/11/2015 02:45 am In the past I have posted some errors that were also die varieties, they are a 1998 LMC with the type 2 ( Wide AM) on a die strike double struck cent ~ 2nd strike 40% off center.. The next was a 2000 LMC 10% off center strike with the type 2 reverse... = 2nd strike was die struck both sides, no uni-strike. Report this Post to the Staff
stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 09/11/2015 06:12 am To qualify as a variety I feel the collectable feature needs to be there from the very first coin struck by that particular die pair. The only coin I can think of that would fit into this group and not qualify as a variety would be multi-denomination mule. Any coin that exhibits a distinguishing feature that could happen after that first struck coin should be labeled an error even if there exists multiple identical examples. Report this Post to the Staff
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